>From k e bera keb at cyblings.on.ca :  "Only to comment on the "Tor Mail" 
>points, and i think Andrew mentioned it on this list before, Tormail.org is 
>not affiliated with Tor Project.  Furthermore, they are listed on this page: 
>https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/LikelyTMViolators "

Yes, thank you.  That is EXACTLY what I was looking for.  I was thinking that 
the Tor Project ought to have a list of super-trusted hidden services, as well 
as a list of known violators.  I couldn't find such a list anywhere.  The link 
you gave me is perfect.  I now know that Tor Mail not safe to use.  It's just 
another shady hidden service.  I'm glad I tried the experiment before going off 
and using it for anything important.

Lesson learned:  Do not use Tor Mail in a quest for free private e-mail!

I think I will buy an e-mail account.

- Mysterious



________________________________
 From: Mysterious Flyer <mysteriousfl...@yahoo.com>
To: "tor-talk@lists.torproject.org" <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk
 
OK, more information on the circumstances:

1.  The whole reason I started up with all this "privacy" and "anonymous" stuff 
was because someone had hacked my gmail account, and was trying to ruin my 
life.  I happen to know from their IP address that they work at Google in San 
Jose.
2.  I used a dedicated Tor Mail account to open the anonymous "Torrified" Yahoo 
account, and then only ever used the Yahoo account to post to this forum.
3.  I have to admit that I got lazy with my passwords.
4.  I only use Google through https, but you know that gets unencrypted at the 
exit node, right?  Or am I wrong about that?
5. I use Keyscrambler whenever I'm online, and I have AdAware.  I sometimes 
download free trials of other anti-malware programs, just to make sure that 
AdAware is doing a good job.
6. I use an unsecured wireless network at home because we're too lazy to set up 
a password.  We set one up once, but then got new computers and it was hard, K? 
 We live in a very spaced-out area, so our nearest neighbor is too far away to 
hop on our connection.  Our nearest neighbor has TWO secured connections at his 
own house.  One of them is named "Black Ops", which is funny.  I doubt the 
neighbor with two connections is hopping on to mine.

I have my suspicions about Tor Mail.  Do any of you think that someone got 
access to my Yahoo account by hacking into the Tor Mail account that was used 
to set it up?  I was using this little algorithm to make passwords, which 
probably would have easily been guessed if a person had my user name and 
password from the one Tor Mail account.  

I noticed that my back-up account to the Yahoo account had been changed from 
"x...@tormail.org" to "x...@tormail.com".  I also can't for the life of me seem 
to remember my password to the dedicated Tor Mail account that was used to set 
up the dedicated Yahoo account.  Was the password changed at Tor Mail, or did I 
just plumb forget it?

I have gotten conflicting information on whether or not it is EVER safe to 
access e-mail through Tor.  I have read that your Google cookie can be stolen 
through Tor, even when you aren't on Google.  Is that true?

So I am thinking there are two possibilities:
1.  My hater has been spying on my this whole time, even though I thought they 
were gone, and they are good at spying.
2.  This is a new person (not the hater) who got at me through Tor Mail, and 
they just posted the posing post as way to make fun of me because they think 
it's funny.

I doubt the debit card thing is related.  Someone probably stole my numbers 
through a swipe-logging device at a gas station.

Based on the information above, can anyone provide any further insight that has 
not already been given?

Signed,
The REAL mysterious flyer.






________________________________
From: Joe Btfsplk <joebtfs...@gmx.com>
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

On 2/19/2013 12:21 PM, adrelanos wrote:
> Griffin Boyce:
>> I hate to call shenanigans on this, but it seems extremely unlikely that
>> someone would hack your email account and then use it to post to the Tor
>> mailing list. Or any mailing list.
> Confirmed.
> 
What do you mean by confirmed?  In "King's English" :) "confirmed" would mean - 
in this context - Boyce's statement about it possibly being a hoax / prank, had 
somehow actually been proven true.  Like running down IP addresses, email 
message keys, etc.  I'd be interested in that.
Or did you mean, "I agree"?

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