Le 18/06/2016 à 02:01, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:20:16PM +0200, Aymeric Vitte wrote: >> Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : >>>> Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + onioncat) I >>>>> don't really think that it can scale to the extent required by a bt p2p >>>>> network, I don't think either that using hidden services is a good >>>>> solution to reach peers, and is it not an issue to have potentially >>>>> plenty of new nodes (peers) relaying the Tor traffic and decreasing the >>>>> efficiency of the Tor circuits due to their upload bandwidth? >>> Those are not grarpamp's point - as load increases toi the point where the >>> network has some actual "problem", this will motivate various people to do >>> those things required to actually improve the network. >> That's what I am saying, move bt to anonymous, more traffic, increasing >> nodes, this will never happen with the Tor network > Why not?
For plenty of reasons: Tor is centralized, in order for others to extend circuits toward a Tor node it must be declared in the centralization system and therefore will get traffic (you can advertise a ridiculous bandwidth to limit this but you will not stop it), then quality of the circuits would be degraded by the bandwidth of the peers and their instability (coming in and leaving), peers could act as bridges or just "freeride" but then it seems difficult to reach them and/or will get blackisted, monitoring of the Tor network to prevent and defeat attacks will become much more difficult, etc, under that conditions it's difficult to imagine a few thousands of nodes scale to hundred of millions of peers like bt, and it's difficult to imagine that the Tor project will collaborate with this, the Tor network is designed to browse the web not to support a p2p system -- Get the torrent dynamic blocklist: http://peersm.com/getblocklist Check the 10 M passwords list: http://peersm.com/findmyass Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.org Peersm : http://www.peersm.com torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk