On Tuesday 29 June 2010 11:55:13 am Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Remy Blank wrote:
> > Felix Schwarz wrote:
> >> 1. Python 2.4 support. RHEL 5 ships 2.4 and is one of the major Linux
> >> 
> >>    distributions out there (especially for shared hosting).
> >> 
> >> Currently I
> >> 
> >>    have problems installing 0.12 on some production servers as they
> >> 
> >> are
> >> 
> >>    still running RHEL 4 (Python 2.3!) which will change in 2012.
> >>    RHEL 5 will be supported until 2014 and I'd like to make a point
> >> 
> >> of
> >> 
> >>    supporting it for a couple of years more.
> > 
> > While I understand the idea of stability advertised for RHEL, I
> > wouldn't
> > want to bear the cost of supporting such a policy. I mean, we're two
> > and
> > a half developers here, and we should be doing the work for a
> > multi-million dollar company? I don't see that happen. Red Hat is of
> > course free to provide old patched versions, but I don't want to
> > restrict our available feature set (and therefore development speed)
> > for
> > that.
> 
> Also if someone is running RHEL 5 (or 4) then by definition they are
> okay with running older software in favor of stability. Assuming RHEL
> ships Trac 0.10 or 0.11, that will continue to work forever.

That's not how I see it.  Choosing an enterprise distro means not wanting to 
have to rebuild your server every year.  That's different from not wanting to 
use a current version of Trac.  I think we should support running Trac on the 
latest release of all the major enterprise distros.  RHEL/CentOS is the distro 
I use; Debian, Ubuntu's LTS, and SUSE Enterprise would also count.  
(RHEL/CentOS and Ubuntu LTS are the ones I most often see used.)

0.11 will shortly be unsupported.  0.12 will be unsupported shortly after the 
0.13 release (targeted for the end of this year).  At that point, no 
_supported_ version of Trac will run on RHEL/CentOS.

I still think we need to support the most recent RHEL, and should therefore 
retain support for python 2.4.  Once RHEL6 comes out, I'll fully support 
dropping 2.4 support.  Unfortunately, I can find no public schedule for when 
it is supposed to come out, though Beta2 is now publicly available.

That said, life has conspired against my Trac development time, and the two 
contributors doing most of the work want to move to 2.5 for valid reasons, so 
I expect my objection won't change anything.  I'm hoping RHEL6 will come out 
soon and make the issue moot anyway, but I've been hoping that for a year+ 
now.

Eli
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