I'm not nearly as involved as all you are in this project, but I linger
around on the list to cast opinions about when something catches my eye,
as this has.

I can say that as a (somewhat lay) user of Tracker, the UI is about as
bad as Martyn says - it works, but barely. My impression was that the
0.7 release was supposed to be something big; something for the
community to be excited about. I can understand the desire to push it
out the door, but if the idea is to release a major version number, and
for it to be a big deal, doing so lacking a UI to leverage it seems like
folly to me.

I agree that we shouldn't try to push the community too much (as Phillip
says, I think), and that going with the flow is a good thing, but I
really hope we don't release such a poor tracker UI when the
architecture has been made so wonderously powerful underneath.

My 2 cents...

Mike



Jamie McCracken wrote on 07/10/2009 04:11 AM:
> I started looking at fixing the UIs yesterday so hopefully should have
> them fixed this weekend or early nest week-I might need to bug some of
> you for improved sparql suport
>
> Please dont release til we have them!
>
> There also a number of things missing
>
> Metadata rank weights-should be in ontology but they are not 
>
> I wrote the fts rank funtion but it needs to be use the correct metadata
> weight and be exposed by spqarql so I can order results by rank 
>
> the rank function simply sums (weight * number of occurences) as fts
> stores the positions and hence we known number of occurrences in the
> index
>
> for search tool I also need FTS snippets function to  be exposed by
> sparql (its in fts and I modded it to be efficient)
>
> The above is needed by search tool so I cant finish that off until that
> is done. No doubt there will be other issues as I fix the Uis that
> require mods to sparql
>
> I also think we need the Events (onto, storage and possibly dbus) to be
> added to that list. I can add it to the file indexer to store file
> histories during indexing once its in our onto. 
>
> I would like to eliminate the Zeitgeist daemon as what they want to do
> is most inefficient - get relevant data from tracker to a python
> middleware process and forward it on to clients. IOW their daemon acts
> like a wrapper around tracker and is therefore redundant not to mention
> bad design!!! They should use a c lib if they want to wrap tracker not a
> python daemon!
>
> Also we should get tracker into Gnome within 6 months so clients can go
> straight to tracker for metadata, tags, events etc
>
> jamie
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:00 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> This year there has been a lot of talk around tracker which is really 
>> good to see and also some applications like zeitgeist are interested in 
>> using it too.
>>
>> Through the week, I have been thinking about what is left to do before 
>> we can start releasing the 0.7 unstable versions.
>>
>> I started a wiki page with the details and have started working on some 
>> of these already. If anyone has anything to add, please do so.
>>
>>    http://live.gnome.org/Tracker/Roadmap
>>
>> After speaking to the rest of the team (we estimate) we could release 
>> within a month or so.
>>
>> This largely depends on the UI too. Right now we are considering 
>> releasing the unstable versions without any UIs and to work on those 
>> during the 0.7 releases. Jamie has elected to get started on those in 
>> the next few weeks.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Martyn
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