I hope to have a new UI (actually it will look quite similar) next week It probably wont be as advanced as I like but we have plenty of time to improve on it - dont need to do everything in one go!
jamie On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 00:29 +0200, Pavel Rojtberg wrote: > The problem with developing a new UI is that it takes time and the > upstream version freeze is already close for Ubuntu 9.10. > > From an application developer POV I would rather try to push tracker > 0.7 into Ubuntu than developing a new UI. > Since then I can start using the full potential of tracker. > > Right now I am using the SqlQuery method with really hacky queries since > what I really need is the SparQL interface... > > Regards > > Pavel > > > On 10.07.2009 20:12, Michael Lissner wrote: > > I'm not nearly as involved as all you are in this project, but I linger > > around on the list to cast opinions about when something catches my eye, > > as this has. > > > > I can say that as a (somewhat lay) user of Tracker, the UI is about as > > bad as Martyn says - it works, but barely. My impression was that the > > 0.7 release was supposed to be something big; something for the > > community to be excited about. I can understand the desire to push it > > out the door, but if the idea is to release a major version number, and > > for it to be a big deal, doing so lacking a UI to leverage it seems like > > folly to me. > > > > I agree that we shouldn't try to push the community too much (as Phillip > > says, I think), and that going with the flow is a good thing, but I > > really hope we don't release such a poor tracker UI when the > > architecture has been made so wonderously powerful underneath. > > > > My 2 cents... > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > Jamie McCracken wrote on 07/10/2009 04:11 AM: > >> I started looking at fixing the UIs yesterday so hopefully should have > >> them fixed this weekend or early nest week-I might need to bug some of > >> you for improved sparql suport > >> > >> Please dont release til we have them! > >> > >> There also a number of things missing > >> > >> Metadata rank weights-should be in ontology but they are not > >> > >> I wrote the fts rank funtion but it needs to be use the correct metadata > >> weight and be exposed by spqarql so I can order results by rank > >> > >> the rank function simply sums (weight * number of occurences) as fts > >> stores the positions and hence we known number of occurrences in the > >> index > >> > >> for search tool I also need FTS snippets function to be exposed by > >> sparql (its in fts and I modded it to be efficient) > >> > >> The above is needed by search tool so I cant finish that off until that > >> is done. No doubt there will be other issues as I fix the Uis that > >> require mods to sparql > >> > >> I also think we need the Events (onto, storage and possibly dbus) to be > >> added to that list. I can add it to the file indexer to store file > >> histories during indexing once its in our onto. > >> > >> I would like to eliminate the Zeitgeist daemon as what they want to do > >> is most inefficient - get relevant data from tracker to a python > >> middleware process and forward it on to clients. IOW their daemon acts > >> like a wrapper around tracker and is therefore redundant not to mention > >> bad design!!! They should use a c lib if they want to wrap tracker not a > >> python daemon! > >> > >> Also we should get tracker into Gnome within 6 months so clients can go > >> straight to tracker for metadata, tags, events etc > >> > >> jamie > >> > >> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:00 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> This year there has been a lot of talk around tracker which is really > >>> good to see and also some applications like zeitgeist are interested in > >>> using it too. > >>> > >>> Through the week, I have been thinking about what is left to do before > >>> we can start releasing the 0.7 unstable versions. > >>> > >>> I started a wiki page with the details and have started working on some > >>> of these already. If anyone has anything to add, please do so. > >>> > >>> http://live.gnome.org/Tracker/Roadmap > >>> > >>> After speaking to the rest of the team (we estimate) we could release > >>> within a month or so. > >>> > >>> This largely depends on the UI too. Right now we are considering > >>> releasing the unstable versions without any UIs and to work on those > >>> during the 0.7 releases. Jamie has elected to get started on those in > >>> the next few weeks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> Martyn > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> tracker-list mailing list > >>> tracker-list@gnome.org > >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-list > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> tracker-list mailing list > >> tracker-list@gnome.org > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > tracker-list mailing list > > tracker-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > tracker-list mailing list > tracker-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-list _______________________________________________ tracker-list mailing list tracker-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-list
