Either a cluster of separate servers or a monster system running numerous
instances.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mark Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Yeah... I have to wonder at 200,000 simultaneous single users on a
> single server, regardless of the application server, let alone the
> framework.  If you have that high a load, I'd be looking at a
> clustered solution right off the bat.
>
> Would anyone disagree with me?
>
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Bell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I haven't done any load testing on ColdFusion or Transfer with anywhere
> near
> > that number of users, but as Brian said I'd do a really quick spike and
> some
> > load testing before you go too far with this. Mark, shoot me down if I'm
> > wrong, but I wouldn't call that number of simultaneous users a typical
> use
> > case for Transfer (or even for a ColdFusion app). If you're really gonna
> > have that kind of load out of the gate, you might find the speed of
> > development benefits of CF are outweighed by the performance benefits of
> > (say) a java based app. Also I'd be looking seriously at clustering
> > strategies (I don't know how easy/possible it is to cluster with
> Transfer)
> > as I'm not sure if you'd want 200,000 logged in users running on a single
> > machine (assuming they interact with the server with some frequency).
> > Best Wishes,
> > Peter
> >
> > On Mar 13, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Brian Kotek wrote:
> >
> > If any individual User only has a few attributes, then a oneToMany is
> fine.
> > If a User had 5,000 attributes, it would not be fine.
> >
> > 200,000 instances is a lot, but "a lot" depends on your hardware, RAM,
> heap
> > size, etc. With 200,000 simultaneous connections, I'm assuming this is a
> > monster server. So it will probably be ok. Before you go too far I'd just
> > run a load test and see how it works.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM, John Whish <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Brian, I might be going down completely the wrong path with this.
> >> I'm expecting 200,000 users logged in at once. The idea is to
> "encapsulate
> >> what changes" and stick all user attributes that aren't common to all
> users
> >> into another class. Users will probably only have 3-4 specific
> attributes
> >> (although as the system grows it will no doubt be added to).
> >> As I understand it, 200,000 x 4 is a lot of objects to store in the
> >> transfer cache so it will be constantly instantiating those objects.
> >> Originally I was using the proxy before I decided to try storing a
> struct
> >> directly in the User object.
> >> As I get the user object when they log in I don't see how I could use
> >> a manyToOne in this scenario.
> >>
> >> I got the idea from the heads up OOA&D guitar store example, if that
> >> helps.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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