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That sounds the right way to go, Slim.
I actually see how everything does manifest that is envisioned.
There are just 2 little problems that people need to resolve.

One is that actually everything does manifest. As people are not aware of  
this due to the span of time that passes, they do not realize it. It is  
case that makes things take a while.
The second is counter-creations. They come trough as well. Again time span  
due to case occludes the creation/counter-creation mix as being ones own  
effect.

xriz



Am 26.11.2010, 22:02 Uhr, schrieb Slim <slimspersonalem...@gmail.com>:

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> Non of the so called issues anyone has in life are the result of  
> anything that has happened or that anyone has " done " this lifetime.  
> Assuming so will not be in your best interest .
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> The bulk of the material you'll be time breaking makes anything this  
> life time as about as significant as an old discarded small piece of  
> toilet paper in comparison.
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> You want to time break goals , huge goals in the magnitude of ability  
> that compares to creating mass as dense and solid as a universe filled  
> with starts and planets not unlike the one we consider ourself to be in  
> right now.
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> Its not about what the boss said last week or some prenatal experience.  
> It may be early on but eventually it will be much much more significant  
> and solid. Like the sun that this planet revolves around.r
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> The more responsible we become the simpler life will become and be.
>
> Level five or any practical exercise is only as good as it produces  
> change for the better. What many don't realize not having done level  
> five is what kind of change it will produce. It will produce what ever  
> change you desire it to produce. The universe will be yours to own and  
> control. No different than your ability to control the images in ones  
> own mind. You want to see a pink cat with a blue tail and pink ears  ?  
> See it . But it wont just be in your mind it will be for all to see and  
> know if you so desire. Your power of postulate will soon become  
> absolute. Matter is matter no matter if its in the mind or where ever it  
> may be . You have the ability to create it and by the time one is done  
> with level five , the ability to create will be limitless. No matter if  
> it's in the mind of anyplace else. Matter is matter , goals are goals.  
> Locations are locations.
>
> Ive never followed a geru , but there's always a first time . Why not,  
> sounds fun. Dennis and I go way back prior to coming " into " this  
> universe. LRH is ok but we are not friends from before coming here.  I  
> have full recall of life in this universe and well before coming here. I  
> also have  the ability to just " look " at a place in time and know it .
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> On Nov 26, 2010, at 12:34 PM, xriz <xri...@yahoo.de> wrote:
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>> Yea, there should be a rundown.
>> I say it is the phenomenon of not willing to be responsible anymore.
>> That is taught into people while childhood by forcing them to accept  
>> what
>> the stronger person says - which are the parents. Later it is teachers,
>> then military and then the boss at work.
>>
>> xriz
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>> Am 26.11.2010, 17:39 Uhr, schrieb Flemming Funch <ffu...@newciv.org>:
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>>> 2010/11/26 xriz <xri...@yahoo.de>
>>> That sticking to authorities is something i got rid of some years ago,
>>> whereas not with the scientology tool.
>>> How could you spot and process that ?
>>> Getting rid of that is the key for an own life and real choice.
>>> With this sickness alive people will never listen to anything their
>>> chosen
>>> authority has not approved.
>>>
>>> It would make sense to make some kind of rundown for getting people out
>>> of the idea of following a guru blindly.
>>>
>>> I must admit, it wasn't exactly a scientology process that did it for  
>>> me
>>> either. It was more indirect. It was when I had done what I considered
>>> "the whole bridge", and there was nothing else to do. It was a bit of a
>>> loss at first, but then I learned to look for myself and think for
>>> myself, and I realized I had all the tools I needed for doing so. But
>>> that took a LONG time before I realized that. It would have been more
>>> useful to do it earlier.
>>>
>>> I can think of a number of components for helping people realize it
>>> earlier. Part of it is in the study technique, remembering all the time
>>> that the words you read are not the real thing, but they only point to
>>> what is there to learn. Part of it is in the attitude of processing,
>>> always helping people to reach the point where they're looking for
>>> themselves. And then there are processes one could run that would look
>>> for false data and that kind of thing. And "admin" type processes that
>>> are directly oriented towards what one is doing in life, like admin
>>> scales.
>>>
>>> - Flemming
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