************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ p.s. - the thetan's viewpoint goes exterior to the body, never the thetan 'himself'. The thetan can never 'go' anywhere, and never has. Your viewpoint travels around, not you ! You create a viewpoint to go traveling around and having adventures. You are entertained by it.
I'd love comment on this. Yes, all true and also your response to my "interesting fun piece on EXTERIOR". To my understanding, I would also say that a viewpoint (and the associated point to view from) is a consideration and therefore is exterior to the body and is also on the level of pure thought. There is the point to view from, that a viewpoint (the Thetan) takes as the basis for the viewpoint but this does not mean that there is any mass or location to the viewpoint. It is pure thought. It is the idea that one has come to if one were to view from a specific location and time. One is not taking the body's eyeballs and perceptics to all of these different points to view from. They are thoughts/considerations that the Thetan is having. Another definition of Theta is viewpoint. In Level 3, one can take old scenes and take new viewpoints from those old scenes even now. Dennis mentions getting the idea of getting on a bus from an old scene and seeing where it takes one. I did that and found that I could explore more of that old scene. I did it on foot, on a magic carpet (exterior from a body), on a bus and on a trolley. The trolleys were very enjoyable inasmuch as I could more fully experience them since they were only a small and vague part of my earlier life. Trolleys were soon replaced by streetcars in this life time's early years. The San Francisco cable cars are very similar to trolleys in my early childhood. I was putting up more of the old scene and being aware of other locations and events during the time of that old scene, more than I did even being at and in that time. Talk about time travel! Talk about being able 'to Know'! One of those 'Holy Shit' moments. It was very enjoyable as well as very interesting. Needless to say it was very expanding. I had a lot of curiosity about those trolleys from long ago and with TROM, I was able to satisfy that curiosity by more fully experiencing those trolleys. At first it frightened and bewildered me but I did it a second and third time and then it just flowed evenly and smoothly as I simply took the trip. Went where I wanted and saw what I pleased. _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
