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Hi David Have you tried reading the kindle version? I would be really pleased if it helped you understand and apply TROM.
Sincerely Pete On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:43 AM, David Pelly <david.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Pete, > > Thank you for the explanation. > > But distinguishing whose words are whose in an editing, is basic literary > integrity or editing integrity. > > And just because Greg and Judith did not do it, does not mean it is the > right thing to do. > > Three wrongs do not make a right. > > You should also include an explanation that TROM went through two previous > edits prior to yours, and that you have no idea of whose words are whose, if > you in deed don't. > > One editing by Greg and another by Judith. > > (But it just occurred to me to ask: are there not tapes for the record?) > > At least Judith, that I know of, became totally pissed off and disdainful of > TROM and gave up. > > That likely gives some indication as to the difficulty of her case and TROMs > inability to help her with her case. > > Similar to my situation. > > It is possible that if she would of been helped by TROM, she might of > acquired some extra free theta units and did more work and did the editing > properly. > > It is difficult to think of much when the biggest issue is the size and > severity of one's case and the desperate need to deal with it. It is a > simple matter of priority. > > > > Like it has been said, when you are up to your ass in alligators it is hard > to think that the main goal is to drain the swamp. > > A person has to come up the tone scale and theta scale to think and function > with full integrity. > > In this case it is literary integrity or editing integrity. > > > > > > I suspect that Greg also became disdainful too. > > I know a number of others who did likewise. > > > David > > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Pete Mclaughlin > <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> >> >> Hi David >> >> Whose words are whose? An excellent question. >> >> In 1979 Denis gave his notes to Greg Pickering to write TROM. Those notes do >> not exist to check how accurately Greg did the job. >> >> Many people complained that the book was hard to understand and needed an >> index. >> >> Greg quit as the distributor of TROM around 1990 so Dennis turned over >> Australian distribution to Judith Anderson. >> Judith responded to concerns about spelling and grammar errors in TROM by >> editing the text, adding her own interpretation of how to run TROM to the >> end of the Manual as an appendix and who knows what else as no editing notes >> were made and the original 1979 is gone or at least I have never seen a copy. >> >> The TROM manual at the Freezone site is the one I started with and is the >> Judith Anderson edition. >> >> So if anyone is serious about getting the original version and verifying >> that none of the tech has been lost you need to contact Greg and get Dennis' >> notes or at least a copy of Greg's original 1979 version of the manual. >> >> Thanks for asking David, everyone should be aware of what version of TROM >> they are studying. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:19 PM, David Pelly <david.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >>> ************ >>> The right thing to do is to do like Aarre said. >>> >>> >>> >>> There has to be some sort of a distinction in whose words are whose. >>> >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Aarre Peltomaa <peltomaa.aa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> ************* >>>> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Aarre Peltomaa <peltomaa.aa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Pete, >>>>> I still think that a short editing note won't be that much distraction, >>>>> and is worth it. Or you could change the font each time you put in an >>>>> inclusion. With a reality factor in the beginning explaining the font >>>>> change, that wouldn't be too distracting. >>>>> What do the others think about this ? >>>>> Aarre Peltomaa >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Pete Mclaughlin >>>>> <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Aarre and Roberto >>>>>> >>>>>> All you need to do to see the changes is open up the kindle version in >>>>>> one window and open up the old version in a second window and read them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Part of my purpose in doing the editing was to eliminate all the >>>>>> distractions that the bad grammar imposed on the reader. It would be >>>>>> counter productive to now add in the distractions of editing notes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely >>>>>> Pete >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Aarre Peltomaa <peltomaa.aa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Pete, >>>>>> > I finally got Kindle working and downloaded the manual and your >>>>>> > additions to my desktop; wonderful ! The fonts and bolded parts >>>>>> > are easy to read, and large enough type size. It is arranged very >>>>>> > nicely. The only thing that I can ask at cursory glance is that any >>>>>> > additions that you put in, such as the charts, be marked as added by >>>>>> > you, and not in the original manual. This way a person will know >>>>>> > what was written by Dennis, and what was written by you. This >>>>>> > annotation should also apply to any additional sections, chapters, >>>>>> > explanations, etc., that you have added. I think this is a very >>>>>> > important point, and I welcome input from other TROMers about this. >>>>>> > Thanks very much for this work, >>>>>> > Aarre Peltomaa >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trom mailing list >>>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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