We’ll talk then; maybe it will clear
your head. Izzy
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From:
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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002
5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What do
you believe, Dave
DAVEH: I find your attitude interesting,
Izzy. If I don't do as you want, then you consider me a waste of
time. I suppose I could say the same thing to you, but I find your
comments (such as the one below) to be very interesting indeed.
BTW......I purchased a copy of Larson's book last night at Deseret
Industries. Now before you get all excited, I'm not going to read it just
to make you happy. But one of these days (hopefully soon), I'm going to
peruse it to my satisfaction. But it is going to be hard to discuss it
with you, since you consider my arguments to be " pointless, circular, endless, fruitless, and blockheaded". :-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
The whole bunch of you.
If you won’t read the Larson book, I have no desire to waste my time on
your pointless, circular, endless, fruitless, blockheaded arguments. Izzy
ShieldsFamily wrote:
BLAINER, YOU HAVE PROVED
MY POINT: THERE IS NO POINT IN TRYING TO TALK TO MORMONS. YOU JUST GO AROUND IN
POINTLESS, STUPID CIRCLES. I QUIT. IZZY
DAVEH: "BLAINER"?........Or
were you referring to me, Izzy?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Whether
LDS theology is right or wrong......many of those who practice it do it with
great sincerity. I don’t doubt the
sincerity of your LDS beliefs. I doubt the sincerity of your search for Truth
DAVEH:
Therein lies your problem, Izzy. Despite me explaining my reasons for
being here numerous times, I just don't understand why you don't believe me
when I explain my motives. Just what have I said that makes you think
that I am on TT to "search for Truth"??? Is there anybody on TT that has heard me
say such?
—especially when
David M tells you he has proof of the fallacy of some of your scriptures and
you refuse to read it. THAT proves you don’t want to know the truth if it
conflicts with your current beliefs.
DAVEH:
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn. I grow weary explaining my motives. And when I do,
you don't believe me. Izzy, I've got to ask you....Why do you think that
I am on TT to "search for Truth"???
Let
me ask you why you are on TT, Izzy? Are you seeking truth and
knowledge? I need a good laugh now
and then!
DAVEH:
Hmmmmm.......So, if I am to believe you, then you aren't here to "search for Truth"!?!?!?!?!
I really didn't think so either.
If
so, I would expect you to eagerly read the BofM You have pretty presumptuous expectations. (as I believe DavidM has done, if I remember correctly) to
find out if it is true or not.I already know it
isn’t true. You have offered me NO incentive to read it anyway.
DAVEH:
I see. Without incentive, you have no desire to "search for Truth",
eh. Well now, what do you think would be my incentive to read Larson's
book?
Now.......I suppose some may think I'm preaching Mormonism here, or you might
think I am manipulating you. But.....I'm just trying to point out the
hypocrisy of your demands. I
didn’t demand anything. I simply offered to read your B.of M. if you want
me to in exchange for you reading the Larson book first.
DAVEH:
I see you haven't learned what motivates (or perhaps "de-motivates")
me. Conditions don't compell me to do anything, except stand off.
Even
if you read the BofM (which I doubt you will due to your disdain for it), I
don't think you will accept it. You expect me to do as DavidM desires,
when you don't want to do what I request. Do you understand what I'm
saying, Izzy?Yes; I understand that you
are trying to manipulate me into reading your bm book without you having to
read the Larson book. Duh. I can figure that one out!
DAVEH:
LOL.....Izzy, I don't want to offend you, but I wasn't trying to get you to
read the BofM. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of your attempt to get me
to read Larson's book.
But I will make you a
deal.
DAVEH:
Ponder what I said above.
You read the Larson book
FIRST and discuss it with David M, and then I will read your BofM. I already
have a copy, thanks. (I haven’t read any sci-fi in a long time.)
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Dave Hansen
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