Dear Perry, Marlin and all,
Sorry that I haven't been able to write for a while- I have been SO BUSY!!! I had not checked my inbox enough, and the hotmail account got full, and must have started sending back mail. I re-joined, however, and now I believe that I am beginning to recieve all posts.
I believe that keeping God's commands are not what saves you. However, does that necessarily mean that they are not required for salvation? From what we know about God, we know that He has certain codes for living by. Apparently, the Adversary sinned when he stopped living by these laws(written or not at the time). His heart became lifted up with pride. He was cast out from heaven to earth. What was the condition that caused him not to be able to be with God???? PRIDE!
Would God allow a person who willfully and knowingly disobeyed His laws eternal life????
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT COMMANDMENT-KEEPING, WHILE NOT BEING THE THING(JESUS) THAT SAVES A MAN, CAN STILL BE A REQUIRMENT FOR ETERNAL LIFE AND SALVATION???????
-PETER
From: "Charles Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 22:52:50 +0000----Original Message Follows---- From: "Marlin Halverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:10:52 -0500Perry: Not required for salvation...but manifested as a result of our belief in and love for Christ: See 1 John 5:1-3.Dear Perry, 1) Do you think the BIG TWO commandments are required for salvation?
The commandments cannot save anyone. If anyone thinks they are saved by keeping the 10 commandments, they are doomed already. The commandments were not given to save us...they were given to demonstrate our transgressions and sinfulness...to demonstrate our need for a savior.
Perry: Marlin, what an interesting question. I am no expert on demons, having spent most of my time focusing on Christ, but here goes:2) Suppose someone is demon posessed and confesses Jesus as Lord, and believes that God raised Him from the dead, and confesses this, and is deliberately and with full knowledge breaking any one of God's 10 comandments. Does this result in salvation? JAM 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
First, I believe that those who have truly placed their faith in Jesus, that is, are saved, cannot be demon possessed. We belong to Christ, and no one can take us from Him.
Second, with that in mind, then someone who is demon possessed has not placed their faith in Jesus, that is, they are not saved.
Third, the angels that fell with Satan (demons) that might possibly inhabit or possess a non-believer cannot be saved. There is NO salvation for angels (or demons). BTW, this is why they tremble...they know who Jesus is, and his righteousness does not cover them! They are doomed!
Fourth: Any non-believing individual who has allowed himself to be controlled by demons cannot accept Christ as long as the demons are in control.
Of course, this leaves all kinds of open questions about demon possession, but I am no expert on this. In fact, I do not think anyone is. So, my answer to this question is "No".
Perry
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