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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:41
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormons and
Women
Blaine: Hi again Judy,
This was a very interesting account. Sounds
like this woman is pretty bitter.
Judy:
I don't know about that, she went on to say that
she tried other religions
but could not feel comfortable with them so she
is now of the opinion
that she is spiritual rather than
'religious'
Blaine:
But when she says the Church told her she
could not divorce her husband,
I have to take that with a grain of salt.
The church has no say in civil matters,
so to say they won't let her get a divorce,
is just not true..
Judy:
Well obviously because she went to the Courthouse
and got a divorce.
But we don't know that the stake leader or
whatever they are called
didn't tell her that do we? and he would
represent the Church to her,
she is just recounting her experience with
the Church and this man.
Blaine:
If she is talking about having her temple
sealing to her husband
"cancelled," which is the word they use,
she is the one who needs to
initiate that--the man doesn't need to, as he can
basically be sealed to
more than one woman. But if he is sleeping
with other women, he is
committing adultry, and unless he repents in
sackcloth and ashes, he will
not be having a second woman sealed to
him--he would not even be able
to get a temple recommend in the first place, and
all sealings must be
done in the temples, so?
Judy:
She didn't mention all that, she did say that she
lives in Fairbanks Alaska
and that they got married in SLC. I'm not sure
which one was a Mormon
to begin with but it sounds to me as though it
was him and he didn't have
a problem with it.
Blaine:
What is the problem with this woman? She is
mad as H--- at her husband,
that is for sure!!! LOL Other than
that, I cannot see that she has any problem.
Judy:
For starters she is totally against your Church
now and any Church for that
matter. The husband is now an ex and who
knows when and if she will
trust another man. I see these as two
huge problems and no laughing
matter.
Judy
Blaine: I once heard someone tell me that
the church is full of people who are looking for a chance to be
offended. I don't know that I would say that about most acticve people,
but Satan sucks off those with weak testimonies, who look for chances to
become inactive and return to their old sinful ways. Too bad the guy was
such a jerk--he will have to account for that someday, no doubt--but the woman
apparently joined the church to please the man, and then the man copped out on
her. I have seen that syndrome more than once. I would say neither
one of them were ever totally converted in the first place.
This is part of a testimony by Karen that was
on a website
I was visiting... So what about this DaveH and Blaine? This is
most
definitely not the Jesus I serve... Judy
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Karen writes:
I have been reading the articles about the Mormon church on David's
site and I just wanted to tell you that you are definitely on the right
track.
I was raised Mormon here in Fairbanks, Alaska. I was married in the
Salt Lake Temple in April 1980.
The ceremonies, word for word,
were exactly the same as the Masonic rituals.
I especially was disgusted by the part of the ritual where I was told
that my
husband would have to "bring me into heaven" - I could not get there by
myself, no matter how good I was. My husband ran off with an underage
hooker one month after we returned from the temple, and informed me
that
I must remain married to him, because he wanted to be able to "get
some"
from me any time he was bored with the hooker.
The church told
me, when I complained to them, that I must do as he said,
and that I could not divorce him. Well, I knew where the court house
was,
so I got my divorce, anyway and left the church in the dust.