----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Furthermore......LDS theology teaches they could not have had children prior to the fall anyway.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do they teach this? Laura DAVEH: It is revealed in the BofM....... "And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end. And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin. But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things. Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy." 2Ne 2:22-25 Judy: The above makes not one bit of sense DaveH. How incredulous to try to get people to believe that the creator of all joy is joyless and that he made A&E this way; that one has to wallow in the mire to have fun, and that men can't be men unless they are in satan's image ... because this is the outcome of the fall, the two trees in the garden represent opposing types of wisdom. DaveH: .......Does that answer your question, Laura? Now let me ask you a couple.......IF Adam had not transgressed, he would have been immortal. I assume you agree with that? Then, do you believe immortal men and women can have children? Now let me take it a step further......suppose Eve had partaken of the FF and had fallen, but Adam had not transgressed and remained immortal. Do you think Adam (being in a higher state of immortality) could have had children with Eve (in a lower state of mortality)? Judy: Why strain the brain trying to figure all this out in our fallen state DaveH? Are we God? I don't know about Laura maybe she knows more than me but I don't see any point in trying to speculate on what might have been. ATST I know that to be holy is a whole lot better for both men and women than the alternate. Sin leads to sickness, sorrow, sadness and death - all good gifts come from above from the Father of Lights in whom there is no degree of shadow or turning... that's reality. Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
