I am sorry, that I do not fit your little Butter Cup christianity. That is right, I forgot, we are supposed to "prophesy SMOOTH things" I do not want to work thru the things that divide us. I am interested in staying divided heretics on one side christians on the other. Which side are you? The bible never tells us to find what things we have in common with unbelievers.
 
It is not like any of us here do not believe the bible?
What have you been reading. Maybe you posted to the wrong group.
I will take your email under advisement as far as it is translated correctly.
 
No reproving, nor rebuke, even if the bible says so. It is unbecoming on a Modern christian, right?
 
Philosphy? Nothing to offer?

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

I prefer the bible. maybe you think it has nothing to offer.
By the way how did you become a christian or are you still working on it?

"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin,
If I am off base on what I'm about to say, please get me back on. But you need to cool it. When new people sign up to our little e-community, they come because they see that this is also a site for the discussion of science and philosophy. This is how I blundered into this. I thought it was a forum broad enough and opened enough to maybe begin to work through the things that divide us. It's not really like any of us here do not believe the Bible! The way you and others have treated Lance's first input is rude and unbecoming of Christians. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you think these other disciplines have nothing to offer Christians, then say it in a way that truly represents the heart of our Lord. First, however, maybe it would be better to just be still and read what Lance brought to the discussion. Whether we are right or wrong in what we believe, we can all learn a great deal from it. When you identify yourself as a Christian, you've named yourself with the name of our Lord. You need to either change your name, or start acting like you believe it has some meaning.
 
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

WT says I for one can attest to the fact
 
See Blaine you need to listen up we have 2 witnesses here William & Lance

"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Lance, welcome to the neighborhood. I like what Torrance says. I for one can attest to the fact that it is truly in times of deep conflict that I become most aware of my beliefs. It is also in these times that I find out whether I have consistently thought through my beliefs -- that is, are they consistent enough to withstand the scrutiny of crisis? I do not like these times. Sometimes they make me aware of things I didn't even know I believed; sometimes they force me to change my mind. But I have found this to be true: each time I come through crisis, I am made aware that I have been made stronger; and without hesitation I say that through each crisis, God remains faithful. I am closer to him for it.
 
I look forward to hearing from you often. Thanks for the post. And I think you are asking the right question. Do you care to weigh in on where you stand?
Bill
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

The deepest questions are those which penetrate to our ultimate assumptions or beliefs and which exercise a regulative control over our knowledge in any sphere. These are questions as to the framework of thought with which we operate and, from which we put our questions. They are questions as to the hidden preconceptions of which we may not be properly aware. We all operate with regulative beliefs of this kind which are tacit and informal. They are not normally noticed and they operate axiomatically in our interpretive framework. Their power over us is in proportion to the fact that they are tacit and they are axiomatically held. BUT WHENEVER A CRISIS ARRIVES, whenever deep conflicts in opposing frameworks of thought arise, then our unconscious assumptions, our latent beliefs, are suddenly thrust to the surface and we are forced to think them out. UNLESS WE BELIEVE WE WILL NOT UNDERSTAND and it's only if we believe that we will understand. There is no understanding without the commitment of the mind to objective reality and to its natural or intrinsic intelligibility. (TFTorrance) Indeed, what nature did Christ assume at His Incarnation....? Lance 


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