Judy wrote: > Leviticus 17:11,14 states for the life of the flesh > is in the blood" Since the life of man is in his blood > and man must die because of sin, it can be stated that > there is death in the blood.
I'm not sure about your logical process here that arrives at this conclusion, but I do, nevertheless, agree with your conclusion. The blood may have genetic abnormalities and also experience sickness and disease, and ultimately die. Therefore, there exists in the blood both life and death. Literally, the Scriptures say that the "soul" is in the blood, which is the word translated life. I think this points to the soul existing and interfacing with the flesh through the blood rather than the neural tissue of the brain. Judy wrote: > The very fact that sin affected the blood of man > (his life) necessitated the virgin birth of Christ > if He was to be a son of Adam and yet a sinless man. This is where I disagree with you. You argue from the premise that Christ cannot have had any experience with weakness within him, and in tautological fashion you reason back to the conclusion which you already hold to be true. Judy wrote: > For this reason, Christ could partake of Adam's flesh, > which is not inherently sinful, but He could not partake > of Adam's blood, which was completely sinful. Suddenly you leap to the concept of "completely sinful blood." I have no idea what you mean by that. How can blood possibly be sinful? Behavior comes from our brain not our blood. Sin pertains to behavior. Jesus said that the flesh profits nothing, and even what you eat does not determine your moral state before God. Jesus could have had a genetic blood disorder like Thallesemia or even some form of Leukemia and still have been holy before God. Blood does not determine one's holiness and to suggest such means that I would have a scientific way to determine the moral state of a person. All I would have to do is a blood test! How convenient. :-) Judy wrote: > Because he had not one drop of Adam's blood > in His veins, He did not share Adam's sin. And if he did not share Adam's sin, then he was not our brother and was not related to us and could not redeem us from our sin. Judy wrote: > It is a medical fact that from the time of conception > to the time of birth not one single drop of blood ever > passes from the mother to the child or from child to > mother. This is blatantly FALSE. I do not have time right at this moment to look up some references for you, but as I have mentioned to you in the past, the red blood cells of the unborn are nucleated, unlike the mother's, and therefore easily identified in the mother's bloodstream. It is possible to determine the sex and the genetic condition of the unborn by taking a sample of the mother's blood. While there exists a barrier between the blood of the mother and the child, it is not complete. Some blood passes both ways, from the mother to the child, and from the child to the mother. This is a scientific fact. If you would like me to take time to research some links for you, I will. Just ask. You can find this information yourself if you would just use Google and search on words like "nucleated erythrocytes" and "maternal and fetal blood," etc. Judy wrote: > From: Dr. Liley, the "Father of Fetology [quote] > Dr. Liley, who did the first fetal blood transfusion > in the womb, said that seven days after fertilization: > ". . . the young individual, in command of his environment > and destiny with a tenacious purpose, implants in the > spongy lining and with a display of physiological power, > suppresses his mother's menstrual period. This is his > home for the next 270 days and to make it habitable, > the embryo develops a placenta and a protective capsule > of fluid for himself. He also solves, single-handed, > the homograft problem, that dazzling feat by which > foetus and mother, although immunological foreigners > who could not exchange skin grafts NOR safely receive > blood from each other, nevertheless tolerate each other > in parabiosis for nine months. [end quote] Do you know what "parabiosis" means? It refers to a sharing, and is often used to refer to conjoined twins who share a common blood circulation. To use this quote to argue that not one drop of blood migrates between the mother and infant is intellectually wrong. Judy wrote: > The blood comes from their father at the time > of conception, FALSE. This is scientifically FALSE. I have mentioned this to you before, but you keep repeating it without any shred of evidence. We know that genetically the nature of the blood is determined by both the mother and the father, and that in cellular substance the blood is developed from the mother. Anybody with just a first year college education in biology should know these things. I have a Master's degree in biology, but you would rather scoff at my comments and continue to disagree with me than check out what I tell you. I'm not elevating my education above you because it is nothing, but I point it out at this time in the hope that you might reconsider your sources of information. You are treading into making scientific statements which are fallacious. Judy wrote: > and thus it is the father who gives life (the blood) > to the child at conception. Blood does not equal life. The father does not give the blood to the child at conception, neither does he give life to the child at conception, and to the best of my knowledge, neither does the father give the soul to the child (but I could be wrong about this last point because it is not as easy to investigate as the first two points). My interpretation of Scripture is that the spirit and soul comes from an act on God's part, not from the father. I'm open to exploring this last point more, because assumptions and interpretations are involved, but the other points deal with science and are beyond dispute to anyone who will look at it through the scientific process. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.