David,
 
When below I said "we" I meant it in a generic sense: we human beings. I don't think Peter is referring to the "spiritual man" (I'm quoting you) when he compares men who have refused the Lord who redeemed them to a dog that returns to its vomit. Rather Peter is referring to false teachers, men who hear the Gospel but refuse to believe it; instead they devise a different "gospel" and use it to lead people astray. These men are not believers, nor have they ever been receivers of the Holy Spirit.
 
NKJ 2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. ... 18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.  20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.  22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit,"
 
 
 
Bill 
 
 
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

> Bill wrote:
> > In my opinion Skinner simply confirmed what Peter
> > and Scripture had been saying for two millennia.
> > We can be conditioned to participate in some
> > inexplicably tragic behaviors.
>
> Skinner's psychology is important in helping us understand the flesh.
> His conditioning applies to the flesh, and when applied to humans, we
> are talking about modifying behavior which emanates from the flesh.  His
> methods are completely useless for the spiritual man.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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