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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arsene Lupin
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:54 AM
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting questions, Izzy.

 

Izzy: In ADDITION to wishing you would become a Believer in Jesus (which I

gladly ADMIT right off), I just really NEVER dreamed there were people who

believed like you seem to since the time of Jesus.

 

TPW: "Since the time of Jesus"? Try long before his time (give or take a

thousand years). But truth being told you shouldn't be surprised that it

survived. If you look at history, you will note that certain cultures that

were under the boot of the priesthood learned to go underground. Only the

lesser successful and loud individuals were caught, judged and burned at the

stake, branded heretics and so on and so forth.

I guess I’m confusing what you believe with the sort of thing that Paul spoke

about when he taught at the statue to the Unknown God.  Didn’t the Romans

 have multiple gods when Jesus walked on the earth?  

 

And in many regions of Europe, it survived also into the form of folk-tales

and the oral tradition. In remote areas, the priesthood couldn't be

everywhere and so there was always a pocket of us that kept certain

traditions alive. The Roman Catholic church is full of such that survive as

"festivals".

Exactly why I abhor the RCC today.  Full of paganistic elements and

 doctrines of men rather than doctrines of God from scripture.

 

Izzy: I'm trying to figure out if you really believe that these "gods" are

real or ever were. OR are they just exercises in modeling behavior based

upon the attributes that those mythical creatures supposedly had?

 

TPW: A little bit of both. I believe that there are the elder gods, the

Aesir and the Vanir. That there are Gods and Goddesses. I also believe that

from the lessons given by the tales of these gods that they reflect the good

and the evil in all men and women.

So you believe in some multiple gods that are still living? Where are they?

Does your religion have any solution for the evil in people, or does it care?

(As you know that is the main issue with Christianity—a solution for sin.)

 

Izzy: And at what age did you discover and adopt these beliefs? Are there

many like you?

 

TPW: You could say I had adopted the old ways into the fullest in my early

teens, like most young people whatever faith they chose, they chose it

around that age. As for how many we are, it's safe to say there is a fair

number, but we are obviously not the majority.

What did/do your parents think of this? Aren’t they RCC? (So were mine.)

 

Izzy:You sound like you have your mind made up to me. (But one can always

hope against hope, anyway--right? )

 

TPW: I must apologize for my knee-jerk reaction, most Christians of the

evangelical persuasion ask usually about my beliefs only to ridicule them or

"rebuke" them. Hence, after such arrogant behaviour, you can't expect us to

be happy to see people coming to speak of the "good news" without feeling a

bit defensive or be reluctant at all if not evasive.

No problem. Obviously there ARE rebukers on TT.  I hope not to be one of them.

 Izzy

 

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