On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:19:25 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 11/15/2004 6:53:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ADDENDUM
We ourselves shall never be true to ourselves. Our human path is, as such, a path from one disloyalty to another; and it is the same with the ways of the gods of this world. They do not keep what they promise. So with them there is never any real peace and clarity. In God alone is there faithfulness, and faith is the trust that we may hold to Him, to His promise and to His guidance. To hold to God is to rely on the fact that God is there for me, and to live in this certainty. This is the promise God gives us; I am there for you. But this promise at once means guidance too. I am not left to my waywardness and my own ideas; but I have His commandment, to which I may hold in everything, in my entire earthly existence. The Creed is always at the same time the gospel, God's glad tidings to man, the message of Immanuel, God with us, to us; and as such it is necessarily also the law. Gospel and law are not to be separated; they are one, in such a way that the gospel is the primary thing; that the glad tidings are first in the field and, as such, include the law. Because God is for us, we may also be for Him. Because He has given Himself to us we may also in gratitude give Him the trifle which we have to give. To hold to God thus always means that we receive everything wholly from God and so are wholly active for Him.John says.... The man of few words speaks volumes. Lance, in the above, says "Gospel and law are not to be separated ......" In my writings there is a lot of separation between the two. Study time. If we read Lance in the above -- carefully and thoughfully, with a view of understanding his point -- I think we will see some excellent thinking worded in the best of manners. Johnjt: I don't think it is Lance saying all that John. Jonathan wrote: Note Lance's other post today which was a quote from Karl Barth's 'Dogmatics in Outline', a small gem of a book. Take another read of this portion: "Gospel and law are not to be separated; they are one, in such a way that the gospel is the primary thing. More confusion to add to the hermeneutic and theological chaos... judyt
