On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:58:53 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/9/2005 10:31:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The first Adam chose to do it without any propensity.



No he didn't.   One is tempted and then sin occurs.  
 
Eve was deceived, for Adam it was a rational choice; he chose to disobey.
 
He sinned exactly like all of us do.   His nature was the same.  
 
According to the gospel of JD maybe but not according to God. In creation God said it was "very good"
He did not create a "fallen Adam"
 
Remember  -- without propensity, there can be no propooperty and sin is poop.  JD
 
There can be whatever God says there can be and Adam sinned by choice without
any propensity.  Jesus OTOH refused to sin aside from any propensity.  JT
 

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