jt: To Karl Barth that is.... If "Jesus
loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most profound
statement then we are wasting our time studying
him.
I see you are still up to your old tactics, Judy. No one said that the above was Barth's "most profound
statement."
jt: Tactics Bill? Why is whatever I
write a tactic? (I don't have a wrestling mindset) and someone did
say this (this was spoken by Barth on his deathbed and is said
to be the culmination of his life and work)
BT: Jesus loves you; this you know, for the
bible tells you so. Pretty profound huh? Or is it darkness upon which you
dwell? Bill
So why not go straight to the source?
jt
You mean like he did? Or perhaps I should ask you the same question I
asked, Izzy. Do you know that Jesus loves you? I mean, I think he does,
but do you have any basis for thinking the same?
jt: I don't really know what Karl Barth
did or said - he may have been studying theologians himself; but I do
know that Jesus loves
me... because while I was his enemy - he died so that I might live -
and now it is my turn to show
my love for him by following His voice and by doing what He
says.
I'll talk to you later; I'm off to a wrestling tournament. Go
Andy! Bill
In a message dated 2/26/2005 1:28:01 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Barth,
while dealing with the problem of the fall of man, near the beginning
of his essay (this is not a Mexican greeting - essay Mon
!?) has t his to say:
We will begin by stating
that in all that we have to say at this point we
cannot and must not deviate at any cost from the revelation or Word of
God. (Barth, Church Dogmatics,
vi.1, p478).
Spoken like a true
believer.
His critics might try gving him a read
before doing the work of the Father in judgment.
jt: So far as I can tell noone
is judging Barth the man. As believers we have a responsibility
to evaluate or "judge" if you like the things he
taught and wrote as
the representative of God.
Also, "The fall of man. The term corresponds
exactly to what we have learned to know as the
essence of sin --
the pride of
man."
jt: I don't think so -
there was no pride in the first Adam and his wife before they agreed
in their hearts with the word of the adversary and began to be
conformed to his image.
And the "Word of God" has this meaning to Barth
-- " .......... by the Word and judgment of
God we do not mean a revealed theory of supernatural origin and
content about man, but the address and claim of God concretely
attested to [man]." And, so, the "Word of God" has no single definition except the
above. The "word" is scripture, Jesus, that which
is spoken by a true prophet of God, that which is revealed
through counsel, the still small voice, a circumstance
that cannot be misunderstood and the like.
jt: To Karl Barth that is.... If "Jesus
loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most
profound statement then we are wasting our
time studying him. Why not go straight to the source?
jt
