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Nope! Even with God in the equation, imperfection
(humanism if you like, though I prefer humanity) is still the
outcome.
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Sent: June 21, 2005 07:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
My point exactly (see previous post)
YOU LEAVE God OUT of the EQUATION.
This is possibly why you have been called a HUMANist. Lance
Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Granted that 'Pontificating' is both easier
and, more fun, I'll stick my nose in just a touch (discuss). The Scriptures
first appeared written in the languages spoken by those to whom they were
given. (non-controversial!) Thereafter they were translated by men (mostly
but, women participate in the activity now) into other than the original
languages (also non-controversial). In the very activity of translating,
these men/women invest part of themselves into the translations. (I'd say
non-controversial here also) Outcome? Imperfection!
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:25
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Would you like to discuss such or just
Pontificate? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Herein you sound like a Mormon, Kevin.
Belief overrides understanding. That's OK as everyone does this from
time to time.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Belief
You misunderstand?
It is not a work of men but a work of God
Kevin's meaning?
1. 'I do not see it as... Therefore it
might be imperfectly translated
2. 'I see it as ...It is sufficiently
representative of that which is necessary for 'salvation'.
3. It ain't perfect but, it is
sufficient. Therefore, so are most, if not all, other
translations.
It's a far cry from what you've said in
the past. It's a step in the right direction,
Kevin.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005
06:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Belief
I do not see it as "perfectly translated" (by
men)
I see it as God's word (transmitted &
preserved by Him)
DAVEH:
Which version do you consider, perfectly translated,
Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I hold the PERFECT Word of God in my hands. NO
ERRORS. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Ahhhhhhh.....thanx for clearing the cobwebs,
Lance!
Was there not just recently
a big discussion on TT about the accuracy of some of the
Bible translations. There was a little concern about
the JW green Bible. And in previous years we've
discussed how the NIV version dropped a few passages that
are found in the KJV. Just why do we have so
many versions of the Bible, if someone didn't think there
was a problem with the existing versions? Surely
they can't all be translated correctly.....do you
disagree?
Furthermore, when two
Christians determine doctrines differently from the same
source, does that not cause one to ponder why?
Could it be the translations are not adequately conveying
what God wants understood? I don't view that as being
a weakness of God , but rather a weakness of the
translation. Is that a reasonable
stance?
So Lance, I would ask you
(or any TTer) if you believe any particular translation of
the Bible is 100% accurate. If the answer is yes, may
I assume you would then also believe that the other
translations are less than 100% accurate? Now, if the
answer is you do not believe a particular translation is
100% accurate, then would you take my position and accept
the Bible to be the word of God as far as it it translated
correctly?
I would sure be
interested to know if any TTers really do believe a given
translation is 100% accurate. And if you fear
reprisal from other TTers for whatever comments you might
have, post it to me off-Forum. As you know, I will not
mock or denigrate your comments....I'm sincerely interested
in knowing your beliefs.
Lance Muir wrote:
Enlarge upon "as far as it is
translated
correctly".
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