----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 11:32
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: For
Judy
Really Lance,
You need to warn Jonathan about receiving teaching from ppl such as this
because it is not faith enhancing at all. This is is probably a well-meaning
fellow but his teaching is full of fear and has no new argument. All of
his scriptures are NT. Peter's proclamation, John 3:16 etc. He uses lots
of words and just goes round and round with the same ol, same ol. He
accuses those who deny the "eternal" part of using carnal reasoning and then
goes on to do the same himself along with some new accusations ie: those
who don't subscribe to his doctrine are denying the Son and under God's wrath,
and they are Socian (which is someone who denies the
trinity); this man is another follower of Athanasius and the Nicene
creed.
For the record God does not mind us questioning when we do not
understand; he told the prophet "Come let us reason together." And
second I do not deny the Sonship of Christ nor do I have a problem with the
Godhead. I believe according to the scriptures that the second member of
the eternal Godhead known as God The Word became Jesus the Son when He was
born to Mary which is/was prophesied in Psalm 2:7 "Thou art my Son,
this day have I begotten Thee"
So Jesus the Christ had a beginning and the word begotten is the
operative one, in Strongs it is #3205 Yalad meaning "bearing young,
midwife" Hebrews 1:5 validates this understanding and so does Matt 8:29 -
(even the demons knew about it and feared because noone had challenged them
under the Old Covenant). There are others who God calls sons ie: the
angels, Israel, and even Satan as a created being but Jesus is the
only one who was "begotten" of God.
That's my foundation. Now if you can come up with something better
from the OT without all of this circular religious reasoning;
something clear from the mouths of two or more OT witnesses - I am
eager to hear it. Still waiting patiently ..... judyt
