Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

[Blainerb473]

Blainerb:  Sorry Kevin, as usual, you have either been reading the wrong stuff, or you are making this up as you go along, trying to build a case.  Joseph Smith had the Urim  &Thummim restored to him in July, 1828.  Using it, he received a new revelation reprimanding him for allowing Martin Harris to have the 116 page manuscript and telling him the designs of God could not be frustrated.  The U&T was again taken from him, but later restored after a period of probation.  Using it, he then received a revelation telling him 1) of the evil intentions of those who stole the manuscript, and 2) that he was not to re-translate the same portion of the plates as before, but was to translate from  a different section of the plates covering the same time period.   (A Comprehensive History of the Church, B.H. Roberts, Vol 1, pages 111-112)   In a message dated 7/28/2005 11:26:59 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The angel took them away from Joe because he LOST 116 pages of God's word, they were NOT RESTORED in the "restoration"! How was it that the "God" of Mormonism could be FRUSTRATED in his purpose of translation? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/27/2005 6:39:19 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Urim and Thummim Was just a SEER STONE as J Fielding Smith said Blainer:  The seer stone was used in place of the urim and thummim, but was not actually such.  It had similar powers, however.  The urim and thummim was a pair of stones, primarily, set in a rim like a pair of eye-glasses.  See:  Ex. 28:30; Lev.   8:8;  Deut 33:88