Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:43 -0700

Better to have divisions than evil uniformity!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful?  If so, how do you define this  "judgmentalism."   Apparently JT cannot  come up with a definition.   Are we so divided, here on TT,  that we cannot come to terms on such a basic consideration?
 
JD
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Stop being so JUDGEmental!
Is that what your saying? Or doing?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me put it a different way:   such talk is immature and reveals the carnality of the believer.   Good reasons for amending the attitude.  It was for me.  
 
JD 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:12:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Let's share!!!!
 
Could you please pass the poison?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I missed the original post by Terry.   Good words for us all.   I do believe this all goes to why we are here  --  on TT.   to learn, share, or simply to learn what others think  ---   all that is good.   None of us on TT are kids.  We do not need to be warned that we are outside the grace of God or His community of believers.   Such talk is unproductive.   Thanks for the words.  
 
JD
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Stay tuned.  Maybe you can learn from observing others, possibly Dave Hansen.
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Judy Taylor wrote:
 
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:33:59 -0500 Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net> writes:
I think we could start by being graceful, showing grace rather than sarcasm, being more concerned about loving our neighbor or our enemy than we are about pointing out errors in what they believe.  I am not suggesting that you adopt their position or that you compromise what you believe. 
 
I agree with you about the sarcasm Terry - however the above kind of grace could also be perceived as "being patronizing" especially since it is not possible to give anyone a hug or a glass of cold water.
 
I am saying that if you cannot agree, consider that they are being sincere even if they are in error, and with that in mind, very politely ask questions that will help them understand better as well as help you understand them better. 
 
I don't know how to do that Terry - I think Izzy is much better at it than me but sometimes her questions are
misunderstood and she is accused or less than godly motives.  What's wrong with believing the best of ppl
and questioning and examining doctrine?
 
Try to remember that your opinion and three dollars will get you a whopper at Burger King.  Do not over estimate the value of your contribution to the conversation.  You do not have to jump on every word someone else speaks, and when you do, it simply creates a situation where everyone digs in their heels and butts heads and everyone ends up defending their position instead of trying to understand what the other guy is trying to say. 
 
FWIW in this group I don't believe there can be a conversation without some butting of heads. What is believing one thing in the heart and speaking something else out of the mouth called again?  It's either butt heads or be silent.
 
Jesus, Peter and Paul spoke a great deal about loving others.  They said very little about winning a debate.
For what it's worth.  Terry
 
I don't know about all that Terry.  Peter and Paul didn't always agree and Paul and Barnabus parted ways over
John Mark - and these are just the few instances we know about .... Nothing wrong with honest discussion so
far as I'm concerned and some communication is better than none.
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Judy Taylor wrote:
We are all proudly proclaiming how right we are, but to claim that we are doing it in love would be a bald faced lie.  The fault does not lie with you alone as I have been as guilty as anyone, and it is not only the fault of the Fundies as the Libs can be just as mean spirited as well.
 
How would you say one is to love over the internet Terry?





 

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