Hold your breath until that happens  .............................please. 
Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:01:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

JD and Daveh you have accused me of being wrong on many things -and now Kevin sends proof -JD I am waiting on your apologies.

DAVEH:   Exactly my point, Dean.    You claimed one thing, and the material Kevin quoted proved you were wrong in making that claim.  Case closed, as Perry likes to say.

    BTW Dean.......I am waiting on your apologies.

Dean Moore wrote:
JD and Daveh you have accused me of being wrong on many things -and now Kevin sends proof -JD I am waiting on your apologies.
 
 
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Sent: 10/22/2005 9:36:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

 Answer Pappa had sex with Mama, and your point was ????????????????
 
Again, "unique" as in one of a kind is a better translation of the Greek word you see as "begotten."
He is God's eternal Son and , as such,  was not born into Sonship  (speaking of the incarnation).  He has always been the Son.  
 
JD
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:38:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

Begotten has nothing at all to do with the birth of Jesus, folks.   Good thing I stick around or some of you would really get confused  !!
 
Maybe you could answer this SUNDAY SCHOOL question, or is it too advanced for you?
Now, we are told in scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten?
 
ANSWER _____________________________________________
Begotten has nothing at all to do with the birth of Jesus, folks.   Good thing I stick around or some of you would really get confused  !!
 
Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

Chidren are NOT Begotten in a Test Tube.
 
Jesus was the ONLY Begotten of the Father!
QUESTION
How are Children Begotten????????
Can you answer this DaveH?

Dean Moore <cd_moore@earthlink.net> wrote:
. cd: Daveh you big cry baby-Claiming I am a liar after all the back
stabbing comments-By your standards then- when have I ever back
stabbed-show me proof or ask for forgiveness. As I understand the below-the
union between God and Mary was natural-then you say it was a genetic test
tube type babby-Then your prophet (seer)Orson Pratt whom Mormons claim are
never wrong (remember the brain washing of having to repeat over and over
"the prophet is never wrong") said she wasn't a virgin. Have you ever heard
of blasphemy(ie.accusing God of sin)?You and your cult are full of poop you
are a stench in the nostrils of God -a "fart" best describes you a nd your
cult.
> >
> >The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our
children;
> >it was the result of natural action

(though not necessarily sexual) whereby
> >the genetic makeup of our Heavenly Father was combined with Mary's
genetic makeup to bring forth a child in as natural a fashion as science now
> >teaches.
> >
> LDS theology teaches that Mary was a virgin.
> >
> > > >considering how LDS folks think or believe.
> >
> > Probably the most extremely opinionated person quoted was Orson
Pratt in The Seer, which was a highly speculative book based on OP's opinions.

> >Despite being an LDS leader, his opinions are no subs titute for official
> >doc trine, which is found in the Standard Works.

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