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Deity means being God. Do you think that when Jesus
laid aside his glory, he ceased to be God? And are you saying that the
difference between Jesus and other human beings, with respect to the Holy
Spirit, is merely quantitative? Third, even if a mere man were completely holy,
unblemished, how could his sacrifice avail for any more than just one
person?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 13, 2006 13:32
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ -
incarnate God (Judy)
Depends what you are calling "his diety" If it
is the glory he had with the Father since the world began
then yes he emptied himself leaving that behind when
he took upon himself a body of flesh. The difference
between him and other humans indwelt by the Spirit is
the measure (ie he was given the Spirit without measure)
along with holiness; he loved righteousness and
hated evil an ordinary human would never qualify as a perfect
sacrifice without blemish.
Do you mean, Judy, that he left behind his
deity when he was on earth, that he was not God while on earth? In that
case, how was he different from any other human being indwelt by the
Spirit? And how could the sacrifice of such a one avail for the whole human
race, let alone the whole cosmos? It is God alone who saves, is it
not?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 13, 2006 12:32
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ -
incarnate God (Judy)
I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what
about Jesus made Him divine'.
It is not as if he were a man to whom
a special endowment were added or superimposed, 'making' him God.
He is divine because he is God the Son who
has existed from eternity, of one nature with the Father and
Spirit,
come AS A human being.
He is God the Word from
eternity; there is no mention of the second member of the Godhead being
a son until the
day he was begotten (Ps 2:7,
Heb 1:5; 3:5, 6; 2 Pet 1:17, 18). Then there is the fact that he
is also the son of man.
His existence from eternity
has been The Promise.
Your question is like asking what makes God
God. He ain't Clark Kent, Judy who needs only to remove his robe thus
revealing his Superman garb.
No he layed aside his
superman garb and emptied himself as per Phil 2 .... ATST he was holy
and separate from sinners...
So you believe he walked as
God and was as much God on earth as he was in heaven
Lance?
Dean and
Lance,
What exactly was it about jesus that made him
divine?
Since you say you know what it was not - can
you now tell me what it is?
judyt
Lance wrote:
It was not the Holy Spirit "in" Jesus that made him divine, if
it were then all believers would be equally divine.
Yes; this is what I thought to
myself also when I read Judy's post about
that.
D
cd: Lance and
Debbie- what bearing do you view Jesus having that spirit
"without measure" have on you statement?
Albert Barns wrote:
Joh 3:34 -
Whom God hath sent - The Messiah.
Speaketh the words of God - The truth, or commands of
God.
For God giveth not the Spirit - The Spirit of God.
Though Jesus was God as well as man, yet, as Mediator, God
anointed him, or endowed him with the influences of his
Spirit, so as to be completely qualified for his great
work.
By measure - Not in a small degree, but fully,
completely. The prophets were inspired on particular occasions
to deliver special messages. The Messiah was continually
filled with the Spirit of God. "The Spirit dwelt in him, not
as a vessel, but as in a fountain, as in a bottomless ocean
(Henry).
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