Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

[Judy Taylor]

Death reigned from Adam to Moses and it reigned over Nineveh in Jonah's day.. So obviously

the wages of sin is death with or without a written Law.  Jonah called on these people to repent

and they did do that in sackcloth and ashes...  even without theological permission.

 

 

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:36:00 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

well, Nineveh was not under the Law.  Jonah does not call them to the Law. 

And it is the Law that defines sin to be sin.     Can sin exist apart from the law? 

Paul says it does.   Jonah is certainly not calling them to live their lives as the

Jews lived theirs !!  jd

 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I'm with Bill on this one. God is with Bill on this one, IMO, of course.

 

I'm not surprised since you and Bill are so into culture and all that - but don't bring God into your folly.

The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32)  And what do you

suppose his message to them was? 

From: Judy Taylor

 

How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must be regenerated before it is possible to repent because of "total depravity" and this comes out of a misunderstanding of the spiritual realities involved. 

 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

From: Debbie Sawczak

Is repentance part of the Gospel? Yes, the NT is replete with directives to repent. But repentance is not a means by which or through which people are saved. It is Jesus Christ who is our Savior. Salvation is in him, complete with mediation on our behalf. Repentance is therefore our response to the greatest news the world has ever heard; it is our response to the good news of Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

Lance, I now see what you meant today about the exchange bw Bill and David, having read the full message from Bill. The above is the crux, isn't it? It (esp the part I bolded) reminds me of what Victor said numerous times in his Human Person course: I know Christ first of all, before anything else, as my Saviour. The accountability, the repentance, arise out of that.

 

D

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