so there is no way that this
would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in
"their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
Yes they did created the first
Adam in their nature and character spiritually - which "likeness"
Adam forfeited when he chose to go with Eve into disobedience by
eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men (including us)
are born into this world
by procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather than the
likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way to
regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to
become
conformed to the image of the
second Adam which is the sole purpose for His coming
and His willingness to lay down
His human life as a perfect sacrifice in our
place.
Laying aside the fact that you are making much
too much of Seth having been born in the image
of Adam (see Gen 9.6 and answer for me what
would be wrong, then, with killing someone who
was no longer created in God's image,
but in Adam's),
At the beginnign they were
created in God's image and now Noah who found grace is starting
over even though it didn't take
too many generations for the whole of humanity (all but 8 ppl)
to be destroyed. I don't
believe God is interested in fellowshipping with a bunch of
devils.
Judy, I fail to understand why that should even
prevent Christ from being united in his person,
his humanness with his divinity.
I understand. It is
mixture; joining the holy with the profane which is something God
hates.
The only thing which could have severed that
union was the one thing which he did not do:
sin. Hence in his person, he was able to undo
that which had indeed produced schizophrenia
in the relationship between humanity and God.
Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be
like US in every way? Why couldn't he have been like the
first Adam before the fall, the
one who was created? Jesus was not exactly procreated
like
us since he had no human father
so that must mess up your thesis at least a little.
And were he not like us in every way, he
could not have produced this reconciliation; for what
he would have done in a flesh unlike our own
would have had no bearing upon human flesh,
and we would therefore still be in sin.
Bill
Not so; all he had to do was meet
God's conditions which apparently involved passing the
test that A&E failed and he
did that in the wilderness... right after his baptism.
so there is no way that this
would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us
in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
Yes they did created the
first Adam in their nature and character spiritually - which "likeness"
Adam forfeited when
he chose to go with Eve
into disobedience by eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men (including
us) are born into this world by procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather than
the likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way to
regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to
become
conformed to the image of the
second Adam which is the sole purpose for His coming
and His willingness to lay
down His human life as a perfect sacrifice in our
place.
.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006
9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love
and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and
what schism?
Oh, I thought you were married. The
bible says that you and your husband (if you had one) were to become
"one" flesh, in other words the two of you in coming together would
be united -- and not just physically, I might add; it is the
marriage "union" after all. The same is true with God. The bible
teaches that the Lord is "one" and it uses the same word when saying
this; hence there is a oneness or unity within the nature of God, a
coming together of a plurality in union.
God is a Spirit (Jn 4:24)
so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.
Sure the Godhead are One and united
in Spirit.
And so, since you suggested that if
Christ be fully God and fully human there must be a schism, I was
just wondering about the schism you have with your man. Why instead
of schism aren't you united?
In marriage between
humans it is "one flesh" Bill
There would only be a schism between
the two natures of Christ if there were disunity between the
two.
The person of Christ had no disunity;
hence no schism. Bill
There would have been
disunity "big time" if he had a human nature - just like us and was
in fact wholly God ATST; schizophrenic
would be the right
term. Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill
so what would be the purpose??
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and
what schism?
And while you're at it, will you
explain your schism with your husband, too?
(If this needs clarification, just
ask)
Bill
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Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS
NOTDIVINE
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Sent: 1/14/2006 1:07:17
PM
Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS
NOTDIVINE
Dean,
I think this is where "theology"
gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing
me of for so long.
How ironic that his mentor
Bill would write something like this. I think Lance
just repeated it to qualify something.
So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality
(or nature). What about his saying to Philip "If
you have
seen me you have seen the Father" We know he
wasn't speaking of his physical body here; so does God
The Father also have a schismatic
personality.
cd: Judy can you define your usage of
'schismatic'.
Well, yes and no,
DH. I am included in that circle of love in the way
that Christ's humanity is included in that relationship.
But as the humanity of Christ is
not divine, neither am I divine.
cd: Lance at this point- How do you
define "Divine"?
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