David:
I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two.
Kindly say the same thing in other words.
Further, please clarify for me (us) two things again/for the first time:
1. Distinguish between a. the office of prophet & do you occupy it? b. is
there an office of king within the believing community & do you occupy it?
thanks for this,
Lance
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Sent: February 15, 2006 07:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
Nobody who has ever known me in person has called me pompous, but I have
been accused of such from my writing. I think the apostle Paul had a
similar problem (2 Cor. 10:10) so I'm not going to worry about it too
much.
For what it's worth, I do not lay claim to 'knowing' in a special way
beyond
that of most, IF by most you mean other believers. I do lay claim to
'knowing' in a special way that is beyond that of the world. It is
called
the Holy Spirit. Do you have a problem with this?
As for Christology, that does matter, but not nearly so much as sin.
Believers who testify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody
else
is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems
defective.
David Miller.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a
little like hockey. The serious issue at hand re: 'delusion' is not
necessarily rooted in wrong doctrine, IMO. However, few would disagree
that
misrepresenting 'who Jesus is' (Christology) matters. Pomposity when
speaking also matters. DM, IMO, is pompous in a quiet, literate fashion.
DM
also lays claim to 'knowing' in a special way beyong that of most. CD has,
of late, been adopting such an approach. Judy also, along with DM, lays
claim to 'inspired' understanding of the Scriptures. Within such an
engagement as this all we have is 'body checking' and, IMO, that ought not
be the primary focus.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
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Sent: 2/14/2006 6:02:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
Aahhh ----------- from you two, mostly from Judy.
cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worlds suffers
from-but God does allow that delusion for a reason John. I have no doubt
that you speak the truth as you see it-but this is much different from the
one that exists.
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cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements
that
have been taken out of context- but you are incorrect.By the way who is
the
BSF?
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From:
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Sent: 2/14/2006 1:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF.
Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with
who believes the following:
1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh being
changed afterwards.
2. Christ is not the "eternal " Son of God.
3. Christ was of human flesh for only 3 1/2 years.
4. Christ was not the physical descendent of David - only in some
spiritual sense.
5. Christ was not "God on earth" during His ministry.
6. The "Trinity" is false doctrine.
7. God is male and has a penis.
8. God illuminates His disciples to the extent that discussion and books
are not necessary. Because of this "illumination," the understanding of
acripture can be "received" from the Spirit without fear of being wrong.
Those who have this Spirit cannot be mistaken when it comes to the Bible
and
what it means to say. And those who disagree with this are false
teachers
and need to be opposed.
9. The old law is binding and continues to be something we must obey.
I would add to this list -- but I am sure this will be sufficent .
Dean, you and Judy are the very definition of "cult!!" but nice try.
And
what do you want to bet that BSF will not agree?
By the way - you are the one who has set the tone for this response.
This is the fruit of your ministry. Accusing me of preaching the occult
is
not going to fly.
jd
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.Amen Dean,
JD I figure you were thinking of Proverbs 11:14b when you wrote what you
say
below ie: "in the multitude of
counsellors there is safety" However the "counsellors" referred to in
Proverbs ARE those of God's Word or
the Biblical text as you call it. They all say the same thing by the same
Spirit and this is the counsel in which
we find safety. Groupthink?? Anathema!!
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:02:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
cd: A very good definition of the birth of a cult John. No one truth to
live
by but group thinking-No standards to point our error if the group agrees
with the present circumstance-I can see why your group don't like
preaching
such as David does-the one is dominated by the many as his voice is lost
in
the power of the mass.
JD writes:
In the biblical concept of the church
I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not revelation,
certainly interpretation or understanding. If you will, it is in the
counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical text is expanded
and/or confirmed. How important, it is, then, that the church
continue
to meet in forums such as this -- whether virtual or physical. A
community of Being reveals Himself to a community of Believers and it is
out
of this communal reality that our understanding of God and His t houghts
is
borne.
jd
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