Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance
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This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It
insults them and the believers in the churches that have benefitted from
that which the Lord had to say through them.
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Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing
repentance
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Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing
repentance
Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and
Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in
history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as
UNbelievers?
cd: I see then as holding part
truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then
helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error
in the magnitude of the error of the RCC-which is evident of their
praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed
but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth
from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error
before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions
of these two men mentioned.
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Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]
Continuing repentance
I think there is a big difference. Luther was a
bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica
on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild
with "where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running
off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in
the opposite direction. Also he never got completely
free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not
one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence
of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down
and killed.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers
put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday
morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some
people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible
who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians
done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the
Bible says:
Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to
write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write
unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend
for the faith which was once delivered unto the
saints.
In the above I see no room for
modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief
of righ or wrong.To do so is a great
mistake.
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