If I were teaching high school biology right now, I would spend one day out of the whole year to discuss the creation / evolution controversy. I would consider some of the stronger arguments for creation. Furthermore, I would teach them that science considers any mention of a Creator as something that puts a theory outside the realm of science, and I would teach them that the scientific establishment does not consider any model of origins that involves a Creator to be something that science could consider. Of course, I would also express my disagreement with this notion because religious theories that make empirical predictions can be tested scientifically. This is ignored by the scientific establishment in their zeal to outlaw religious theories in schools.
By the way, every past colleague of mine that I have argued this point, about creationist models being scientifically testable, have had to agree with me that I was right, after MUCH arguing, but they will only concede that every Creationist model of origins that is scientifically testable has already been falsified. The ones that have not been falsified are still unscientific. Go figure. David Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Just how wide do you wish the door open, scientifically speaking? This issue is akin to the 'prayer in school' issue. (Goose & gander thingy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: March 23, 2006 16:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > Do you think it should be illegal to teach in schools, or do you just > think > it is good advice not to mention the Creator in schools? > > David Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > > David:Is that all you were meaning to say concerning RW? If that's it > then, > I'm with RW on this one. I don't think it should be taught in schools > either. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: March 23, 2006 15:04 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > >> The CNN report: Asked if creationism should be taught in schools, >> Williams >> said: "I don't think it should, actually. No, no." >> >> So how have I mischaracterized him? >> >> David Miller >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism >> >> >> David:YIKES!! You mischaracterize both Williams and his position. DOUBLE >> YIKES!! I know that you will continue to do so. You are truly trapped, >> David. You've bound yourself with your own theology (not, as you believe, >> Scripture). Your teachers will one day answer for what they've done to >> you >> and, what you now do to others.Yikes! Yikes! Yikes (that'd be triple >> yikes) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >> Sent: March 22, 2006 10:25 >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism >> >> >>> Lance wrote: >>>> If Williams is a 'liberal loonie' then >>>> you are a 'sectarian loonie' , David. >>> >>> I'm sectarian only in the sense that the holy and the profane ought to >>> be >>> separate. I am not sectarian within the group of those who have >>> submitted >>> unto Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. >>> >>> Lance wrote: >>>> He is a brother in Christ who believes >>>> differently than you on some matters. >>>> Now, if that makes him what you say >>>> then, that makes you what I say. >>> >>> He is not a liberal loony for believing differently from me. The >>> moniker >>> was offered because of his statement about how acknowledgement of our >>> Creator did not belong in schools. He made an irrational statement, >>> assuming that CNN reported him accurately. If he is a brother in >>> Christ, >>> then I expect to hear a retraction or clarification made soon as other >>> believers correct him. If he is not a brother in Christ, then he will >>> continue to support the working of iniquity that seeks to remove the >>> acknowledgment of God our Creator from the schools. What he said was >>> very >>> damaging to our society, to believers who want to acknowledge God the >>> Creator in their study of origins. To think that science and the >>> acknowledgement of God are incompatible is expected from scientists but >>> not >>> from theologians, and certainly not from the Right Reverend Doctor >>> Rowland >>> Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury. >>> >>> David Miller >>> >>> ---------- >>> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >>> know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >>> http://www.InnGlory.org >>> >>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >>> friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. >>> >> >> >> ---------- >> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >> know >> how you ought to answer every man." 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