Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:14:26 -0800

Public education was first offered as an alternaive to Christian education. 
 
jd
 
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
No, it is not 'strange'. In most cases 'creation science' reflects neither.
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She should not teach them that the universe IS geocentric, but she should teach them the geocentric model, evidence for and against it, and its place in the history of science and religion.  Isn't it strange how science has no problem doing this, but it does have a problem with creation science being dealt with in the same way?
 
David Miller
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From: Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:30 AM
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You may feel to teach them that the universe is geocentric if you like.
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I’m so thankful that my 4 grandchildren are being homeschooled so they can be taught the Truth! Lance and jd; should it be illegal for them to be taught about Creationism at home? If not, why should it be illegal for them to be taught anywhere else? Do you have any idea about the Christian roots of our public education system (before the lefties took over?) izzy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

 

WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF WE ARE DOING OUR JOB 

 

Our Job is NOT the school system or Politics, render unto Cesear....

 

Unless of course you are swayed by the Reconstructionists.

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What in the hell do you think I have been talking about?   You are so far off course here, as to be just plain silly.  I am not a "big banger" nor do I believe that a lung fish is ancient family.   In fact,  I am with the growing opinion that there has not been enough time for evolution to have worked  it's wonders. That doesn't mean evolution at some level does not exist.   But, now, it is I who digresses.

 

My point?   If the church had not surrendered its college age young people to the Unisersity system,   we would not need this discussion.   The church is not in the High School and our senior class has yet to convert to atheistic evolutionism.......proving that WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF WE ARE DOING OUR JOB  --  AS A CHURCH OF CHRIST IN MINISTRY TO THE WORLD  -----------   and I am not just talking about "preaching to the lost."    Christ actually spent very little of His time preaching.   Most of His day was spent in the offering of benevolent blessings to others. 

 

jd    

 

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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Why advocate teaching what you don't know JD?  As has already been noted "Only when we prove

evolution do we need to concern ourselves with "harmonizing" evolutionism with theism.  Evidence that

this level of proof has not been achieved includes the long list of scientists and others who have abandoned

Darwinism because they became convinced that the scientific evidence DOES NOT support it.  So why

would you want to warp young minds with useless information that is not proven?   judyt

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I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing

 

Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system   ....................   I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around.  That way , you would have to worry about consensus and no one will have the slightest idea what to believe.  but you and Kev will be happy.  CONSENSUS BE DAMNED.   KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !!  jd

 

 

 

From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many

and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no

measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.

 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?  

WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???

 


From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So?

There isn't a single view of the whole church that is agreed upon

by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt

 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  -- 

there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church.  

 

jd

 

 

 

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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

John wrote:

> The world in which we live would reject

> any mention of God in the evolutionary process, 

> IMO.   But  creationism in the schools?   Could

> that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical

> fundamentalist take-over of the culture?

ROTFLOL.  I sure hope you were being facetious on purpose.

 

John wrote:

> But to allow a mere  statement that suggests God

> is somehow in control as the Creator(?)   If this

> could be presented into the secular system of

> education without it being coopted by the fundies 

> --  go for it.   But I doubt that it can.  What a shame

> that radical fundamentalism within Christiandom forces

> the Body to dismiss a perfectly wonderful opportunity

> to introduce the Creator to others. 

In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools.  It is the liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this.

 

David Miller

 

 

 

 

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