* Cédric Krier: " Re: [tryton] RfC: maning of new state of stock move" (Fri, 5 Dec 2014 14:27:08 +0100):
> On 05 Dec 13:54, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> > * Cédric Krier: " Re: [tryton] RfC: maning of new state of stock
> > move" (Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:17:03 +0100):
> >
> > > On 05 Dec 12:34, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> > > > * Cédric Krier: " Re: [tryton] RfC: maning of new state of stock
> > > > move" (Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:07:54 +0100):
> > > >
> > > > > On 05 Dec 11:57, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to pull a little bit of your attention to the following
> > > > > > issue:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For [1] there is coming a new state for stock moves, for which the
> > > > > > current proposal [2] is 'None'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My point of view is: there shouldn't be a state of None. As soon as
> > > > > > an object has a state, it has one and 'None' is misleading. This is
> > > > > > different from selections, where you can can make a selection or
> > > > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't understand this thought.
> > > > > state field can only have one of the value of the selection so there
> > > > > is no misleading by naming one of the selection 'None'.
> > > >
> > > > A state of 'None' logically is not at all a state ,
> > >
> > > For me this is wrong, it is a state.
> > >
> > > > so if choosen the state
> > > > should disappear from the object.
> > >
> > > I don't understand.
> >
> > If you choose to set a state to 'None', you could expect to remove it.
>
> To remove what?
>
> > > > It would be way easier for our users to have a meaningful name instead
> > > > of a logical clash.
> > >
> > > What best meaning that the move has no state because it has a state that
> > > does nothing.
> >
> > So give it a meaningful name describing its purpose:
> >
> > 'Preliminary', 'Preparative', 'Provisional', 'Tentative'
>
> All sounds like for the current 'Draft'.
>
> > > > A selection is different. Not doing a selection is an empty selection.
> > >
> > > Wrong. This is not how Tryton works. If there is not a selection entry
> > > for 'Empty', it is not possible to not select something.
> >
> > It is logic for selections to contain an empty item, if the selection is not
> > required.
>
> False assumption.
>
> > It is not logic for a state to be not a state,
>
> Who says it is not a state?
You.
Citing you from [1]
| But for me, None is clearly defining what it is. A move with no state.
> > because as soon as
> > something is in a state, it has one, but not none.
>
> There is always something in a field.
Cédric, I know that we disagree. It doesn't make much sense to me that we both
repeat arguments again and again. That's why I just would like to hear from
others, how they think about the matter.
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