Le 28/10/2017 à 11:27, Cédric Krier a écrit :
On 2017-10-28 06:48, Richard PALO wrote:
Le 28/10/2017 à 01:12, Cédric Krier a écrit :
On 2017-10-27 22:27, Richard PALO wrote:
So do not fill it. You do not need to have the supplier price, it is
there for information.


?? I thought that stock receptions used the order prices (not the invoiced 
price) for stock
valuation on the stock move. Has this changed, or do I misunderstand the 
workflow?
That is, it is frequent here to have invoices based upon [one or more] 
deliveries.

You should know the price of the product when you validated the
quotation and at worst when you receive the goods so you can update the
price on the move.


Indeed, that is my point.

With respect to promotions, sale_promotion is only for sales and not purchases.
It seems that it should be neutral, but I imagine you suggest in this case that
a purchase_promotion module be devised....

If you want but I do not think it is a generic feature because as I said
most of companies will never encode all the rules of suppliers supposed
that they know it. At best they will have a spreadsheet with the price
list (and some will be per quantity) which can be uploaded as product
supplier price.
But the common behaviour is to just adapt the price from the received
quotation. This workflow will be improved by the
new purchase_request_quotation: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue6175
And even I'm wondering if the unit_price should not be editable on more
state than draft and not required before confirmed.


It is a good idea to analyse the use cases.

I personally believe there are many who value 'verification' and
'update when needing correction' as opposed to manual data entry
with greater risks.

The latter also greatly complicates control of *unusual* price variations which
necessitate rectification by the supplier.

Nobody is exempt of errors, but the general rule is to reduce their heads 
popping up
and certainly catch them when they do... not to mention avoiding any increase 
in the
PO => Reception => Invoice entry/validation time.

That is, there are companies that may already be on the critical path time-wise 
to
get their monthly VAT reports ready... They don't necessarily have the budget 
to double
their staffing in order to do so.

As for quotations, those are prior to selecting the products from a specific 
supplier
for confirmation ... there is no guarantee that a supplier will offer special 
pricing
on all items (which is frequently only on certain non "consumable" articles).
(RFQs may [in some cases] be machine generated and comprehensive)
RFQ's never send the habitual price with the request to the supplier... it 
remains
extremely useful to have 'a' price present in the draft order preparation to 
evaluate
the price quotation received (sometimes the special price negotiation is just 
beginning!).

cheers,

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Richard PALO

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