On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rodney Schneider wrote:

> 1. Are you busy elsewhere?  If so, will you continue contributing to Turbine?

I've been busy writing application code based on Turbine for almost a
year now and we have several large applications here running on top of
Turbine.  I try to jump in now and again with a patch, but I'm awfully
busy elsewhere.

> 4. Will you help maintain Turbine 2.x in the future?

It doesn't seem like many people maintain Turbine 2.x now.  I've moved all
of my apps internally onto Turbine 3, but even there I've modified the
pipeline so much that there's not alot of Turbine left in Turbine.  As
Jason said, trying to teach a new developer how Turbine 2 works takes far
too long.  Even in Turbine 3, I've essentially had to lay a framework on
top of the framework in order to make things easy enough so that my entire
team can work together productively.  I have some ideas about how to
integrate alot of what I've done back in, but I don't have alot of time
right now, and I also don't alot of motivation to start throwing stuff
into Turbine 3, as I feel like it's going to end up toasted anyway.

Anyway, I guess I'm in a holding pattern right now.  I'm waiting for a
version of Plexus that I can do a quick port of one of our apps to, as
well as checking out some other frameworks.  I will be moving to Avalon in
some form or another once my current application is finished and the
decision has also been made to move from Torque to OJB some time in the
future as well.  I'll definately be using some mutation of Turbine as we
go forward here, but I'm not currently commited to any of the current
directions that Turbine is moving in so I don't want to spend alot of time
working on one of them and then end up getting burned.  Once Turbine
2.2 is released and Summit is on the table then I think that the Turbine
community is finally going to have to make a decision as to which
direction to go in and then jettison the excess bagage.  I think that we
will only start moving forward again with any sort of momentum if get
focused like that.

-Kurt


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