On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 08:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> All I know, is that as a new user, I would be very challenged to figure out
> what to use...  
> 
> Do I spend effort on 2.1, which is well tested, but at least two whole
> releases behind the latest and greatest (4.x).
> 
> Or, do I split the middle, and go with either 2.2 or 3.x, but then why do
> both of them have components of Fulcrum?  And what is Fulcrum?
> 
> If we have 4 seperate options, then I forsee many many emails goint to the
> users list on "What should I use to build my app...".
> 
> Would it not be better to mash the rest of the good stuff in 2.2 into 3.x,
> and provide only 2.1, 3.0, and upcoming 4.0?  Or, tell people to use 2.2
> (not 2.1) and call 2.2 the well tested stable version.  
> 
> Having 4 options seems to much....

Definitely. As developers we have to consider this and try and unify to
make things easier. I don't know what the ultimate solution is but 4
options definitely doesn't sound appealing.
 
> Eric
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kasper Nielsen [mailto:news@;kav.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:45 PM
> To: Turbine Developers List
> Subject: Re: Turbine community contributions
> 
> 
> GREAT!
> 
> 
> 
> Then we'll be able to present not only three but four choices to new users:
> 
> Turbine 2.1 Original and stable code base, well tested
> 
> Turbine 2.2 Based on a decoupled Torque 3.0 (+ some of the fulcrum services)
> 
> Turbine 3.x Based on a decoupled Service layer Fulcrum + Torque 3.0
> 
> Turbine 4.x (codename summit) based on avalon
> 
> 
> 
> .......
> 
> 
> 
> - Kasper
> 
> 
> > I fully support the direction Jason is trying to push the
> > design of applications and so do the other turbine developers, so there
> > is no reason summit cannot be the basis for t4.  But if there are others
> > who have their livelihoods as tied up in t3 and fulcrum technology as I
> > do, they will be very disheartened by statements that t3 and fulcrum
> > should not be released and abandoned.  They should be released and I
> > will make sure that they are assuming I can overcome -1's on it.
> >
> > john mcnally
> 
> 
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