[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All I know, is that as a new user, I would be very challenged to figure out
what to use...

Do I spend effort on 2.1, which is well tested, but at least two whole
releases behind the latest and greatest (4.x).

Or, do I split the middle, and go with either 2.2 or 3.x, but then why do
both of them have components of Fulcrum? And what is Fulcrum?

If we have 4 seperate options, then I forsee many many emails goint to the
users list on "What should I use to build my app...".

Would it not be better to mash the rest of the good stuff in 2.2 into 3.x,
and provide only 2.1, 3.0, and upcoming 4.0? Or, tell people to use 2.2
(not 2.1) and call 2.2 the well tested stable version.
our main problem: all three versions (2.1, 2.2, 3.0) are used by production systems ...
from my point of view 2.2 could be released next week .. all my apps are running well, jetspeed is also using it, so i think it should also work for others ...

Having 4 options seems to much....
definitly!

after the 2.2 release people should stop using 2.1
so we have 3 versions left ... still to much!!

i don't know how many people are using which version .. maybe a poll would help to find out

martin


Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Kasper Nielsen [mailto:news@;kav.dk]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:45 PM
To: Turbine Developers List
Subject: Re: Turbine community contributions


GREAT!



Then we'll be able to present not only three but four choices to new users:

Turbine 2.1 Original and stable code base, well tested

Turbine 2.2 Based on a decoupled Torque 3.0 (+ some of the fulcrum services)

Turbine 3.x Based on a decoupled Service layer Fulcrum + Torque 3.0

Turbine 4.x (codename summit) based on avalon



.......



- Kasper



>I fully support the direction Jason is trying to push the
>design of applications and so do the other turbine developers, so there
>is no reason summit cannot be the basis for t4.  But if there are others
>who have their livelihoods as tied up in t3 and fulcrum technology as I
>do, they will be very disheartened by statements that t3 and fulcrum
>should not be released and abandoned.  They should be released and I
>will make sure that they are assuming I can overcome -1's on it.
>
>john mcnally




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