On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:05:54AM -0500, Kurt Schrader wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote:
> 
> > This is fine. The problem for Jakarta is that the Maven generated websites
> > do not fit the existing L&F. Downloads, sibling projects, general info are
> > all missing or setup in different ways.
> 
> The problem for Jakarta is that there is no existing look and feel.
> Compare:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
> 
> > If all of Jakarta were to be mandated to be built in the same way etc,
> > Forrest would be the way to go.
> 
> That seems kind of arbitrary to me.  The current Maven document generator
> produces a website that has a consistent look and feel, as well as a
> standard way of organizing the important project information.  On every
> Maven generated site, for instance, I always know exactly where to go to
> get to the CVS repo information.  Until Forrest has at least reached that
> point, I don't see why we would want to use it.

Aint gonna happen..

When Forrest started a year ago, the goal was to create really
impressive, integrated, consistent-L&F, better-than-Sourceforge project
'portals', through which xml.apache.org projects could be managed, and
real-time info (eg mailing-list stats) obtained.  Gump was to be central
(hence the name 'Forrest').

Forrest evolved at snail-pace for 7 months.  I tried to use it, flamed
the project in a blog[1], then got on board and started to help.  Since
then we've completely reoriented the project. Focus is on single-project
users, not xml.apache.org.  Low 'startup cost' is paramount.  Need to
generate docs for a project?  1) Type 'forrest seed' to generate a
skeleton site, 2) edit the XML content, 3) type 'forrest site' to render.
The goal is to combine the power of Cocoon with the simplicity and
usability of Anakia.  No grand vision, just a tool that does one thing
(XML -> websites) well.  0.3 release coming soon :)


--Jeff

[1] http://www.webweavertech.com/jefft/weblog/archives/000027.html


> -Kurt
> 

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