On Nov 3, 3:50 am, Mark Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > > > All of this needs testing and documentation, > > > It all has 100% unit tests with documentation that unfortunately makes > > the TG and Pylons docs pale in comparison... > >http://docs.pylonshq.com/pyramid/dev/index.html > > I think this is a big deal. There is a huge commitment to quality > documentaiton here, and getting that kind of unified quality docuemntaiton > is not easy, and is perhaps he biggest challenge of a full stack framework, > which is one of the major reasons I think joining forces makes sense. > > Sure, we can create great code on our own, and technically we don't need BFG > or Pylons and could do it on our own, but there's more than just code to > creating a thriving community.
Agreed. I've only been a part time dabbler in TG even though it first caught my attention back in the 0.8 days. The truth is that I don't get much opportunity to do much real life Python web development. I still hope that changes in the future. Recently I had been looking around at other frameworks to play around with, and BFG was one that appealed (Flask was the other main option I liked). Chris sounds like a smart guy and seems to be running the project very professionally. I had also thought about plain old Pylons, but until recently it wasn't clear what future it was going to have (like TG). Chris and Ben teaming up sounds like a promising move. A full stack framework without thorough docs and a large user community is going to struggle to keep users defecting to either a full stack framework that does have those things (eg Django), or to micro-frameworks where the small limited codebase is simple enough that full docs or advice from users isn't as important. Personally while I think joining Pyramid or switching to building TG3 on top of Pyramid does risk another painful fragmenting change of direction (although one that sounds like it can be better managed), all the other alternatives sound like they will eventually run out of steam. In fact based on Chris and Bens comments and the lessons they've learned from BFG and Pylons I'd be tempted to use Pyramid even if TG didn't go in that direction. -- Cheers Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en.
