We have fixed the technical issues that were preventing us to continue
with this effort, so I guess we are ready to accept the Chinese
translation of the Tuscany website.

I think the following are the next steps we should take :

- Remove the old corrupted contents from our wiki ( I can do this
later today if people are ok)
- Chinese community to post a fresh version of the Chinese translation
of Tuscany website
- Raymond (our Chinese guru) would help us review the contents
- Make sure the contributors ha CLAs on file with Apache (they don't
have it as of today), see [1]
- Once contents are reviewed and CLAs in place, migrate the contents
to our website wiki.

Thoughts ?

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg25115.html

2007/11/7 Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Luciano,
>
>  Just to let you know that in principle Confluence Wiki software can deal
>  with pages in Chinese and other languages using non-Western scripts.
>
>  The OSOA Wiki has some Chinese and Japanese pages, here is an example:
>
>  http://www.osoa.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=416
>
>  The OSOA installation uses the Postgre database.  Which one is being
>  used by the Apache Wiki?
>
>
>  Yours,  Mike.
>
>
>
>  Luciano Resende wrote:
>  > Unfortunately, I haven't heard back from infra@ yet, and the guys on
>  > Infra IRC weren't able to give much help this morning. I'm going to
>  > check if the confluence guys have a IRC chat or something similar...
>  >
>  > On 11/6/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>> Yes, it looks like there is some kind of post-process on these pages
>  >>> that are transforming all the unicode/internation characters in ???.
>  >>> Let me fire a mail to infra guys...
>  >> Luciano,
>  >> Did you hear back from infra?  Is there a solution?
>  >>
>  >> Haleh
>  >>
>  >> On 11/5/07, 王洪伟 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>> Yes, I had the same experience. it works well in time of editoring and
>  >>> saving, but goes wrong after some time.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> 2007/11/6, Junjie Guo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >>>> I edited and changed the wrong Chinese page to right page,but it is
>  >>> wrong
>  >>>> yet in this morning.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I don't know what happened in the evening.For example,audited by others
>  >>>> and
>  >>>> autoexec tasks by wiki software, ect. I'm guessing that the question is
>  >>> in
>  >>>> here possibly.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On 11/6/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>> I am seeing all these strings as ????.  I'm guessing that there was
>  >>>>> some difference between them when Raymond entered them in his post.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>   Simon
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Raymond Feng wrote:
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>> Hi,
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> I did a test following the instructions from confluence and it
>  >>> turned
>  >>>>>> out that the Database cannot handle the roundtrip correctly.
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/admin/encodingtestrun.action
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Test 2: Form submission
>  >>>>>> This is the test string pasted by you into the web form and
>  >>> submitted
>  >>>>>> back to Confluence
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> ????
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Test 3: Database round-trip (select as lower-case)
>  >>>>>> This is the string from Test 2 after being stored in the database
>  >>> and
>  >>>>>> then retrieved as lower-case
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> ????
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Test 4: Database round-trip (select as upper-case)
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> This is the string from Test 2 after being stored in the database
>  >>> and
>  >>>>>> then retrieved as upper-case
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> ????
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Expected result (converting Java string to uppercase)
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Thanks,
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> Raymond
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luciano Resende" <
>  >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >>>>>> To: <tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org>
>  >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:14 AM
>  >>>>>> Subject: Re: A Chinese version of Tuscany's technical page
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> Yes, it looks like there is some kind of post-process on these
>  >>> pages
>  >>>>>>> that are transforming all the unicode/internation characters in
>  >>> ???.
>  >>>>>>> Let me fire a mail to infra guys...
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> On 11/5/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>> I see some characters "??" on [1], and I also see many ?
>  >>> characters
>  >>>> on
>  >>>>>>>> the Wiki pages that Junjie put up.
>  >>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>> Do other people see these "?" characters as well?  I think this is
>  >>>>>>>> the problem that Junjie is describing.
>  >>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>    Simon
>  >>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>> haleh mahbod wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>> It looks fine to me, but I can't understand it :)  Raymond can
>  >>> you
>  >>>>>>>>> please
>  >>>>>>>>> check it out before it is moved to the website?
>  >>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>> I made a quick test, and added a page [1] with some special
>  >>>>>>>>>> characters, and Chinese characters, and it looks like confluence
>  >>>> is
>  >>>>>>>>>> handling it OK...
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>> Could you try copying one page again and let's see how it goes ?
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>> [1]
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Test+lresende
>  >>>>>>>>>> On 11/1/07, Junjie Guo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>> Hello:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>> All the Chinese pages that I wrote in the wiki yestoday change
>  >>> to
>  >>>>>>>>>>> ?????, it was OK yestoday,but now......  Why?
>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Chinese+Website
>  >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Junjie,
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> I can help to move the page to the website. Let me know when
>  >>> you
>  >>>>> are
>  >>>>>>>>>> done
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> with your update. How are you planning to keep the pages in
>  >>> sync
>  >>>>>>>> with
>  >>>>>>>>>> the
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> English version moving forward?
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> Haleh
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/23/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie,
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's great news.  The easiest way to do this would be for
>  >>> you
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> to put these pages on the Tuscany Wiki.  It's at
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Home
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can create a new child page under the top level home page
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> and put the Chinese pages there.  When the pages are there,
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Tuscany community can take a look at them and someone who
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> has read-write access to the Tuscany Web site can move them
>  >>>> over
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Web site.  We can handle later updates to these pages
>  >>> in
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same way.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a Contributor License Agreement on file with
>  >>>> Apache?
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is needed for licensing reasons before we can put the
>  >>>> pages
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the Tuscany Web site.  The page
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://www.apache.org/licenses/
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> explains what is needed.  See the descriptions of the
>  >>>> Individual
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement and the Corporate CLA in the
>  >>>>> section
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled Contributor License Agreements.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>   Simon
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie Guo wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon,
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in Shangguang Geng's team, we would like to put the
>  >>>> Chinese
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content to the Tuscany Web site.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which format or way we use send it to you? We want the
>  >>> better
>  >>>>> way
>  >>>>>>>>>> is
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we have a account for Tuscany Web site and can edit it
>  >>> in
>  >>>>> the
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geng,
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These Chinese pages look like a great way to increase
>  >>> Tuscany
>  >>>>>>>>>> interest
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and accessibility for the Chinese developer community.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can they be hosted on the Tuscany Web site instead of on a
>  >>>>>>>>>> separate
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site?  I am thinking of a toggle on the Tuscany site that
>  >>>>> allows
>  >>>>>>>>>> the
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewer to select either an English or Chinese version of
>  >>> the
>  >>>>>>>>>> pages.
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would prevent any problems with Tuscany or ASF
>  >>>>> intellectual
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property, because these pages would be part of the Tuscany
>  >>>> and
>  >>>>>>>> ASF
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web site.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaoguang geng wrote:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, every one:
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In name of CE.Dongli (China,Beijing). We registersd tow
>  >>>>>>>>>> namespaces as:
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ce-tuscany.cn
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.tuscany.org.cn
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out intention is to promote Tuscany in China. Pages in the
>  >>>>> site
>  >>>>>>>>>> were
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> translated from Tuscany's page and English doc, and there is
>  >>>> also
>  >>>>>>>>>> BBS and
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki to raise interests from local developers.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the site is ready for review from all of you, and we
>  >>>>> expect
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions from you.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Logo and page style are all possibly confilcting with
>  >>>> Tuscany
>  >>>>> or
>  >>>>>>>>>> ASF's
>  >>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> intellect property.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But please belive that all those are going to be improved!
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regard, Geng.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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