On 10/18/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/17/07, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for participating the discussion. I collected all the input we
> > have so far at the following WIKI page:
> >
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion
> >
> > Please feel free to add/update to make it an ongoing community effect.
> >
> > Hopefully we can start to turn them into actions and I believe some
> > specific
> > discussions have been carried on the ML. As always, your contributions
> are
> > welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Raymond
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wang feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Tuscany SCA Roadmap and next releases
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We have used Tuscany 1.0 in our product and found some features is
> > > important to us.
> > >
> > > - Support hot deployable on contribution and composite.
> > > This should be have a recursive algorithm to update the correlated
> > > component when it has been referenced.
> > >
> > > - Support SDO namespace when using websservice.
> > > Deploy a service to webservice,a schema file used in SDO and have sdo
> > > namespace such as commonj.sdo/java or commonj.sdo/xml,we should
> support
> > > the feature when parsing the wsdl.
> > >
> > > - Support load contribution as a osgi bundle.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > wangfeng
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2007-10-17, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On 10/16/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> For implementation.bpel, we need to finalize support for references,
> > >>> and we might want to do introspection of the BPEL process.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 10/16/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > [snip]
> > >>> > ant elder wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > - Fix nightly builds (looks like this may be going again now)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Yes it is.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> http://vmbuild1.apache.org/continuum/buildResults.action?projectGroupId=19&projectId=277
> > >>> >
> > >>> > [snip]
> > >>> > > - Fix all the build issues (maven 2.0.6/2.0.7/JDK6/empty
> > repository)
> > >>> so new
> > >>> > > users building Tuscany have a good experience
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > After the changes I made last week I think this is now all fixed
> > >>> > (except
> > >>> > for JIRAs TUSCANY-1846 and TUSCANY-1847). I am currently building
> > with
> > >>> > Maven 2.0.7 and both JDK5 and JDK6.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Could people please try other Maven combinations? 2.0.5, 2.0.6,
> and
> > >>> > report any errors? Thanks.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > [snip]
> > >>> > > - Get binding.jms and implementation.bpel more spec complete.
> > >>> > > - For JMS maybe have a host-jms module so you don't have to
> start
> > a
> > >>> separate
> > >>> > > JMS server or can use the the Geronimo one if thats where
> Tuscany
> > is
> > >>> running
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What's missing in binding.jms and implementation.bpel? Could
> people
> > >>> > working on these modules give a quick overview?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > Jean-Sebastien
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Luciano Resende
> > >>> Apache Tuscany Committer
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>> For binding.jms the user guide shows you that most of the options
> > still
> > >>need to be implemented.
> > >>
> > >>http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-bindingjms.html
> > >>
> > >>There are a few people either working on this or have expressed an
> > >>interest
> > >>in working on it. There is quite a lot on incremental stuff that can
> be
> > >>done
> > >>for anyone else who is interested.
> > >>
> > >>Regards
> > >>
> > >>Simon
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Thanks for collating all these points Raymond. I also have a laundry
> list
> of things I would like to see which I will add to the wiki page.
>
> We have been through this process in the past and we have started with a
> long list, stripped it down to what can be addressed for the next release.
> The work is done, the release is made and we start a new list.
>
> As Sebastien suggested in the mail that started this I would like to see
> this list have scope greater than the next release.
> I would also like to maintain things that don't fit in the list for some
> reason or another rather than just discarding them
>      How about everything becomes a JIRA enhancement and the Roadmap
> exercise is about organizing/prioritizing/finding people interested in
> those
> JIRA.
> I would like to encourage people to continue to extend the list even once
> we
> have started toward the next release.
>
> To me the term "Roadmap" suggests something relatively firm and
> potentially
> quite high level. I've been asked by people what small projects they could
> start on with Tuscany. It would be good to capture and maintain all of the
> thoughts for enhancement people have so that answering that question is
> very
> easy.


Coincidentally there's a recent news article related to the worthwhileness
of these types of lists over on INFOQ:
http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/10/product-backlogs-wasteful

We did try having the "wishlist" jira version but it never really ended up
being used very much.

   ...ant

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