Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> Additionally, the language core is very very thought out, with glacial
> enhancements. "Fixing" the standard library OTOH would involve
renaming
> and removing names, which would make huge collections of programs
break.
> Not a good thing :(

Yes agreed. My comments there were primarily about the future of python
(i.e. Python 3000).



Kent Johnson wrote:
>  Ultimately it seems to come down to
> - Python is open source
> - Python developers are largely unpaid volunteers working on what
interests them
> - If you want something to change, you can
> -- do it yourself
> -- convince someone to volunteer to do it
> -- pay someone to do it
> 
> So far cleaning up the std lib has not attracted any of these three
options.

Yes of course. But not *all* Python developers are unpaid. And even if
they were- this ship isn't rudderless. It could be steered towards
standard library overhaul (in Py3000) if Guido so decreed (and if he
laid out a nice appealing framework, perhaps). But I guess if everybody
thinks it's ok or nobody thinks it can be improved then that isn't going
to happen.



Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> Stop.

Somehow that one word just sums it all up!

Yeah I'll stop. It's not like I'm out to upset anybody. But please,
somebody up there, Think of the Children, eh?

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