On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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- And read this: http://www.moolenaar.net/habits.html
- Hey, that looks very useful! Thanks.
- How about the O'Reilly book? < http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/detail/059652983X/>
I've never read it, but looking at the summary it appears to give you the power and knowledge to become a vi/vim god... My current knowledge of vi/vim is probably maybe about 1% of what I could possibly know and utilize. For instance, I currently rely on other people to write my syntax files (the ones that govern highlighting, indention, et al). The list of commands I use could probably fit on a 3x5 notecard if you wrote small enough. But really it's enough for the casual and educational (read: my c++ class at the University of Central Arkansas) coding that I do. And I find it quicker (as in I'm able to edit and create more lines of code), more powerful (its features are more versatile and customizable), and more comfortable (I'm not constantly moving my hands around. They more or less stay stationary. I don't move back & forth to the mouse, I'm not constanly pushing ctrl, pg up/dn, home/end/del) than any other editor I've used. I've used note/wordpad, the microsoft visual studio editors, and IDLE and the ActiveState python editor.
Once you're done with the vimtutor, and if(when ;) ) you find you enjoy vim,
Since downloading vim 7.2 yesterday, I've had some trouble distinguishing vim and gvim (both were included). Can you help me out? gvim is GUI-vim, I think. Isn't that what I want to learn? Is gvim a cut-down version of vim, but enables you to use your mouse ( :set mouse=a)?
if you feel that you want to be able to do insane things, or you just wish you had a feature that was available in some other IDE, I'd bet that book is a good source. If you're just the average joe coder, my guess is that you'll be able to find all the information you want/need out on the web in various places.
- Still, for all of the reasons that other people mention, and my biggest reason is that I can select and move around massive amounts of code without moving my hands much. If I want to delete 10 lines of code, 10dd does it. If I want to change a word, cw. If I want to change several words, the number of words followed by cw.
- and I find the autocomplete WAY useful.
and then you will most likely never go back - at least I haven't/don't. I feel crippled when I program in anything without the power of vi/vim, even though I can probably almost match my speed with some of the ctrl+ and shift+ hotkeys in most editors.
Is it better than in other editors?
The autocomplete, or vi/vim?
Autocomplete.
Autocomplete is probably as good as most other editors. As you're typing, if you want autocomplete you push ctrl+n and it pops down a list of available matches. You push ctrl+n to cycle through the matches, and then either hit enter or continue typing.
As far as vi/vim being better than other editors, well that depends on your personal preference and experience, but if you're a touch typist, prefer to use the keyboard, and hate wasting motions and extra keystrokes... vi/vim is probably for you.
Well, I'm very probably going to stick with Ulipad, but I want to get reacquainted with vim.
Thanks,
Dick
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