I am not agreeing or disagreeing, I am just bewildered at the response to what has been alleged. Granted, I haven't been privy to all the details of these circumstances, but it seems to me bad behavior shouldn't be ignored or rewarded. Do I believe these people are racists? No, I am sure that the responses are over-reactions. However, what I don't understand is why such rudeness is considered entertainment and why those who perform it are given a pass. I found about this crass types of performances in the early '80s and as a teenager thought it funny. I still do for some, but others it's just awkward. I have a suggestion, how about we quit looking for ways to be offended and if we find it funny, then buy their art. If not, then just ignore it. I mean some performers are making actual threats and it's considered free speech; so, why don't we consider this bad behavior free speech. The only other option is to bankrupt everyone involved and there hasn't been that kind of response since the Ice-T 'Cop Killa' controversy. So, if we are unwillling to create that sort of momentum, then ignore it. I do think that there needs to be a conservative performers, writers, and producers union that creates media that supports, instead of mocking, traditional values. Create characters that not only reflect the lives of real heroes, but could inspire others to be stand-up men & women, instead of being creeps.
On Friday, January 31, 2014 11:00:21 AM UTC-5, Doug Fields wrote: > > Jeez...I just now noticed the several other responses in this thread. > Sorry for beating a dead horse, but it's nice to see that most people seem > to be agreeing with me. :) > > DF > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [TV orNotTV] Seinfeld hints at something... > From: <do...@flids.net <javascript:>> > Date: Fri, January 31, 2014 10:05 am > To: tvor...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > As with just about everything that some people want to classify as an > absolute black and white (no racial pun intended) issue, these things are > weighed in context: who was the person that did something stupid? how many > brownie points did they have banked? what was the situation where it > happened? was there a sincere apology? yadda yadda yadda > (Seinfeldesedefinitely intentional). > > Yes, Richards did something stupid and offensive, but does that mean he > has to work at McDonald's for the rest of his life? It's not as if his > career has been going great guns since the incident; the very few roles > he's had have been lampooning the racist rant on Curb Your Enthusiasm and a > role in the previously mentioned Allie/Perlman waste of network time. > > I'd say we haven't forgotten, and he's still paying the price. The same > as Jerry Lewis is. What exactly would change if he were let off the hook > (assuming he's still "on the hook" in the first place)? He'd work a room > at Vegas for 8 shows a week? He'd go back to making lame comedy farces? > He'd get to host his telethon again? The guy's like 140 years old now. > What's he missing out on, because everybody's being so mean to him? > > Doug Fields > Tampa, FL > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Seinfeld hints at something... > From: "Kevin M." <drunkbastar...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > Date: Fri, January 31, 2014 1:10 am > To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com <javascript:>" > <tvornottv@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > > > > I'm curious, and I think I expressed this curiosity when I commented on > the abysmal Kirstie Alley/Rhea Perlman sitcom, but are we all just > forgetting/ignoring the Michael Richards n-word fiasco? Because I'd > consider it as offensive as anything said by Alec Baldwin. Are we just > accepting that people of a certain generation are going to say racist or > homophobic or sexist things, because it would seem nobody has let Jerry > Lewis off the hook for saying women aren't funny, so maybe our contempt as > a people skips generations or only works if we really want to believe that > deep down the person is basically a nice guy, personal prejudices not > withstanding? Do we just get to choose who is allowed to say or do > offensive things based on how they look or whether they can make us laugh? > > Just curious. Clearly wherever the line has been drawn, I'm not seeing it. > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Bob Jersey > <bob.in.jer...@juno.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> ...to NY morning hosts Boomer and Carton following the tweeting by a >> bystander of a shot of Jerry and Jason Alexander walking toward Tom's... >> what went down inside the coffee shop will be shown someplace soon, I >> imagine: >> >> >> http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/01/30/on-wfan-jerry-seinfeld-reveals-new-details-about-mysterious-project/ >> >> B >> > > > > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
