FWIW, I think having the Enterprise show up at the end of last season hemmed
in the show at least as much as setting it a decide prior to the first series.
I suspect the new propulsion system will get ignored like the Warp 5
restriction on space travel was in during the 24th century spinoffs.
That said, I think it's tricky to presume that Captain Pike was always the way
he was in The Cage/The Menagerie (which happened roughly 3 years before the
events currently unfolding on Discovery). He started that first pilot as a
burned out captain wondering if he should hang it up (Dr. Boyce had suggested a
rest leave) and ended the episode ready to get back to exploring.
What I expect might give me agita is young(er) Spock. Yes, he wasn't as
buttoned up serving under Captain Pike, but I'm concerned they will go to far
in that direction to seem consistent with Quinto's or Nimoy's portrayals.
David
On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 11:23:43 PM EST, Kevin M.
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 6:24 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:
I think we've been here before about Discovery being in an impossible situation
being an immediate prequel of TOS. Frankly, Pike extolling something that might
have sounded likely in 1966 but sounds old-fashioned in 2019, is the least of
anyone's worries. They're still going to have to get rid of new propulsion
system at some point and explain away why no other subsequent Treks was able to
use it.
I can’t agree with you. It is a worry. Either the original series is canonical
or it isn’t. I’m not the one who decided a second prequel series was a good
idea; it opens them up to exactly this sort of criticism and more. But more
than just the chauvinistic comment (which from a storytelling standpoint was a
horrible thing for them to abandon... imagine the sort of stories that could
emerge from a character who basically feels like Archie Bunker helming a
starship, especially a starship with so many strong female and alien
characters), Pike wasn’t a fun guy. He was somber, serious, contemplative. It
was easier to make the character more jovial because they seem to be embarking
on another very dark story arc and needed a lighter character in command, so
they just changed it. They control what is canon, so they have the right to do
whatever they want with the character, but it opens them up to criticism from
Trekkies.
I think you just have to park all that and enjoy the new series... or not.
I’ll take “or not”... if it was on free media I’d probably hate-watch it the
way Dave S hate-watches all things Sorkin, but I don’t need to pay CBS to do
that. I’m in Nebraska... lots of things here I can dislike for free.
I will try to hold out hope for the Picard series, despite the same “creative”
team being behind it, it has a chance to expand the universe of Trek instead of
sinking inward into its past. And while Michelle Yeoh is a favorite, a series
about Section 31 sounds even less Trek-like than Discovery.
Personally, I'm still enjoying this more than most. Episode 2 feels very
old-Trek with an away party going down to a planet in disguise. Yes, there's an
ongoing story arc, but that's to be expected. Of course, this side of the pond
we're lucky that we don't need a whole other TV subscription to essentially
watch just this one show. It's on Netflix here thankfully.
Adam
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:44 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
It was free on the CBS All Access YouTube channel so I watched. It is better
than it was when I stopped watching last season, but that's not saying much.
There wasn't much to the Pike character in the original Trek pilot, but this
Pike character was nothing like what little there was in the pilot (i.e.- in
the pilot, Pike remarked he wasn't used to having women on the bridge, but
didn't balk at Discovery's nearly all female bridge crew, supposedly 9 or 10
years earlier). Frankly, Discovery Pike is closer to early Kirk, but whatever.
Still not paying for All Access to watch more episodes.
Free on YouTube (limited time only)
https://youtu.be/8rvMqRrtmkY
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