I watched it. Too soap operaish for me. I hate those moments where the plot grinds to a halt because a character is going to emote. That happened too much with Billie Piper on "Dr. Who." Tig Notaro was wooden. Ironically, the comedian's worst lines were the jokes her character cracked. I can't believe they couldn't get someone better for that role.
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 9:06 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > FWIW, I think having the Enterprise show up at the end of last season > hemmed in the show at least as much as setting it a decide prior to the > first series. I suspect the new propulsion system will get ignored like > the Warp 5 restriction on space travel was in during the 24th century > spinoffs. > > That said, I think it's tricky to presume that Captain Pike was always the > way he was in The Cage/The Menagerie (which happened roughly 3 years before > the events currently unfolding on Discovery). He started that first pilot > as a burned out captain wondering if he should hang it up (Dr. Boyce had > suggested a rest leave) and ended the episode ready to get back to > exploring. > > What I expect might give me agita is young(er) Spock. Yes, he wasn't as > buttoned up serving under Captain Pike, but I'm concerned they will go to > far in that direction to seem consistent with Quinto's or Nimoy's > portrayals. > > David > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 11:23:43 PM EST, Kevin M. < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 6:24 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think we've been here before about Discovery being in an impossible > situation being an immediate prequel of TOS. Frankly, Pike extolling > something that might have sounded likely in 1966 but sounds old-fashioned > in 2019, is the least of anyone's worries. They're still going to have to > get rid of new propulsion system at some point and explain away why no > other subsequent Treks was able to use it. > > > I can’t agree with you. It is a worry. Either the original series is > canonical or it isn’t. I’m not the one who decided a second prequel series > was a good idea; it opens them up to exactly this sort of criticism and > more. But more than just the chauvinistic comment (which from a > storytelling standpoint was a horrible thing for them to abandon... imagine > the sort of stories that could emerge from a character who basically feels > like Archie Bunker helming a starship, especially a starship with so many > strong female and alien characters), Pike wasn’t a fun guy. He was somber, > serious, contemplative. It was easier to make the character more jovial > because they seem to be embarking on another very dark story arc and needed > a lighter character in command, so they just changed it. They control what > is canon, so they have the right to do whatever they want with the > character, but it opens them up to criticism from Trekkies. > > > I think you just have to park all that and enjoy the new series... or not. > > > I’ll take “or not”... if it was on free media I’d probably hate-watch it > the way Dave S hate-watches all things Sorkin, but I don’t need to pay CBS > to do that. I’m in Nebraska... lots of things here I can dislike for free. > > I will try to hold out hope for the Picard series, despite the same > “creative” team being behind it, it has a chance to expand the universe of > Trek instead of sinking inward into its past. And while Michelle Yeoh is a > favorite, a series about Section 31 sounds even less Trek-like than > Discovery. > > > Personally, I'm still enjoying this more than most. Episode 2 feels very > old-Trek with an away party going down to a planet in disguise. Yes, > there's an ongoing story arc, but that's to be expected. Of course, this > side of the pond we're lucky that we don't need a whole other TV > subscription to essentially watch just this one show. It's on Netflix here > thankfully. > > > Adam > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:44 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > It was free on the CBS All Access YouTube channel so I watched. It is > better than it was when I stopped watching last season, but that's not > saying much. There wasn't much to the Pike character in the original Trek > pilot, but this Pike character was nothing like what little there was in > the pilot (i.e.- in the pilot, Pike remarked he wasn't used to having women > on the bridge, but didn't balk at Discovery's nearly all female bridge > crew, supposedly 9 or 10 years earlier). Frankly, Discovery Pike is closer > to early Kirk, but whatever. Still not paying for All Access to watch more > episodes. > > Free on YouTube (limited time only) > > https://youtu.be/8rvMqRrtmkY > > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
