Films must meet certain standards in only two out of four categories, and it
appears you're only quoting one of the categories ("Onscreen Representation,
Themes and Narratives"). The other categories are "Creative Leadership and
Project Team," "Industry Access and Opportunities," and "Audience Development,"
and as this L.A. Times story notes, many films already qualify in the "Industry
Access and Opportunities" category due to existing efforts by their studios and
production companies.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-09-08/academy-oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 7:33 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The BAFTA example is mentioned in the Deadline story. I’m against those
> criteria too, on principle.
>
> But are the criteria the same? The BBC story says 1917 qualified for the
> BAFTA win because
>
> “it met the criteria for creative leadership (it had a female co-writer and
> two of the five producers were women) and training.“
>
> It sounds to me that 1917 would not qualify for an Oscar BP in 2024. Starting
> in 2024, to qualify for the Oscar a film would have to have at:
>
> “least one of the lead actors or a significant supporting actor must be from
> an underrepresented racial or ethnic group, whether that means Asian,
> Hispanic, Black, Indigenous, Native American, Middle Eastern, North African,
> native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
> Or
> “Thirty percent of all actors in secondary or more minor roles could come
> from two of the following categories: women, L.G.B.T.Q., an underrepresented
> racial or ethnic group, or those with cognitive or physical disabilities.
> Or
> “the main story line must focus on an underrepresented group.“
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 7:00 AM Adam Bowie <a...@adambowie.co.uk
> <mailto:a...@adambowie.co.uk>> wrote:
> On first reading, I was as exasperated with this news as many others are. I'm
> not actually that interested in The Oscars either with the rampant gaming of
> the system through big budget For Your Consideration campaigns.
>
> But I mellowed on reading this BBC piece explaining how BAFTA in the UK has
> already done something similar without me even noticing. From what I've read,
> the Academy has based its new rules quite a lot on what BAFTA has already
> done.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54082567
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54082567>
>
> The BBC piece points out that movies like 1917 (pretty much 100% white male
> leads and co-stars) and The Two Popes (two white male leads) amongst other
> films both qualified through various other categories. So it's not as though
> the subject matter of films need to be limited. But productions may have to
> work a bit behind the scenes to qualify.
>
> What would really be interesting is to go back through recent nominees in the
> categories they're talking about and see just how many would already qualify.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 2:46 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com
> <mailto:pga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> OTOH, I really enjoy the Oscars, or did. This move single handedly
> trivializes the need to increase diversity in mass media representations in
> popular culture, undermines substantive progress in actual diversity in film,
> invalidates otherwise quality films that don’t meet the obviously arbitrary
> standards, and (to the extent it wasn’t already) rendering the Best Picture
> Oscar meaningless.
>
> If they needed diversity standards, would much rather have seen them apply to
> CEOs and aboard of Directors Of companies that make, finance and distribute
> Oscar nominated films.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 2:28 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
> <tvornottv@googlegroups.com <mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> I may have mentioned in the past how much contempt I have for award shows in
> general, and the Oscars in particular. While I applaud the sentiment of
> trying to increase representation, the idea that art can somehow be dictated
> by percentages and qualifications is ludicrous at best and disgusting at
> worst. If the Academy is trying to make itself somehow even more irrelevant,
> this is an excellent step in the right direction.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 7:21:31 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com
> <mailto:steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://deadline.com/2020/09/8academy-shakes-oscar-best-picture-eligibility-1234573172/
>
> <https://deadline.com/2020/09/academy-shakes-oscar-best-picture-eligibility-1234573172/>
> - Oscar Shakes Up Best Picture Eligibility Standards; Strict New Diversity
> Requirements Take Full Effect In 2024
>
>
> What would this mean for films like Schindlers List, The Right Stuff,
> Braveheart, The Kings Speech or JFK? Maybe Spotlight.
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