The debate over whether baseball is more boring than soccer is only slightly less boring than baseball and soccer.
But I watch cycling. So there’s that. On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 6:14 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Right. But my clarification is that I was not attempting to change his > mind. Just observing that I had changed my mind, but totally understand why > people find soccer excruciatingly boring. > > But, as my wife constantly reminds me, there really is no need for me to > express every thought that passes through my head. > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 11:28 AM Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I’m not looking to place blame. I’ve known Dave long enough to know you >> won’t change his mind and FIFA isn’t going to change the rules to try and >> get those people to like the game. >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:21 AM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> To clarify, I would never do that, having suffered through literally >>> decades of being harangued by friends to fall in love with both soccer and >>> hockey. Simply testifying to the fact that, while three intentionally >>> attempts to get it on with ice hockey have failed, I am on the verge now >>> after a long slow courtship of falling for soccer. >>> >>> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 6:56 AM Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In the long history of this group we have never told each other which >>>> sports to like or dislike and I hope we’re not starting now. >>>> >>>> I remember growing up with the same disdain for soccer. In 1982 I >>>> accidentally came across a daily World Cup wrap up on the local PBS >>>> station. Brazil had a legendary team that year and the thing that got my >>>> attention was their fans in the stands. People in the US going to games >>>> weren’t wearing team jerseys or colors yet or painting their faces and the >>>> Brazil supporters were. They showed a level of emotional commitment I had >>>> never seen before. Plus they had samba bands in the stands that would play >>>> whenever the team scored. >>>> >>>> One problem with getting Americans to follow soccer is that it was >>>> difficult or expensive to watch the best teams play. Before the internet it >>>> was nearly impossible to stay up to date on the European leagues and World >>>> Cup matches were mostly relegated to cable. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 2:26 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would have written the exact same until about 10-12 years ago. >>>>> Slowly I have begun to appreciate some of the nuances of the game, and I >>>>> have watched every single WC Match ( well, could not watch some of the >>>>> simultaneous matches, though did a couple of times have one on my TV and >>>>> the other on my IPad). And have had genuine gasps and exclamations of joy >>>>> and despair. It helps that my daughter is into it, so it gives me >>>>> something >>>>> to discuss with her. >>>>> >>>>> I have found some UK darts streaming, but alas nine with my girl >>>>> Jacqui. Also failed to find any darts on ESPN+ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 1:24 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < >>>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have to say (with no irony or sarcasm) that I find darts more >>>>>> exciting and having more action than any soccer game. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Dave Sikula >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:33:28 PM UTC-8 Adam Bowie wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ha ha. Well the most recent ITV darts coverage was hosted by the >>>>>>> excellent News Boulting who these days mostly does cycling and is lead >>>>>>> ITV >>>>>>> commentator for the Tour de France. 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