I am with you Steve on that . I have been in this hobby since 1985. If you want 
to pirate, have at it.




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From: Stephen Smith <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 4:51:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types

  
Sorry - didn't realize this was just another pirate supporting site. I'll 
remove 
my membership in this case. And for the record, I was involved in TVRO and FTA 
long before HBO and Disney was encrypted. I didn't just wake up yesterday and 
setup a dish. If people want good information about what is out there and what 
works, you don't contact a dealer anyway - you talk to those who have working 
equipment. If you want to know what's on satellite, you talk with those who are 
actually watching it.

Finally, if a dealer is supporting the pirate sites, then that person supports 
pirates - plane and simple. I'll be gone from this pirate supporting site as 
well.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types

Nuts!

Lets stay on topic here. We are talking about getting a newbie started.

Both Jamal Sadoun and Tom Taylor can help him with advice and reasonably-priced 
equipment. Both have been in business a long time. Jamal came to satellite with 
an engineering degree and an MBA. Few in this industry can make that claim. So 
Sadoun has depth that others probably lack. Tom has sold and installed many 
systems. I stand by both of them.

Both know their stuff; they can help this fellow.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen Smith <[email protected]>
>Sent: Aug 10, 2010 12:56 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>
>Wihle I agree with all of what you said - completely honest the information 
>is. 
>- The only issue I have with Sadoun is that he caters to pirates and I 
>personally would stay away from those people as far as possible and especially 
>the dealers who advertise on their sites, which Sadoun does, waht with dish 
>going after the end users now.
>
>The other guy I don't know. Rick Caylor is a good honest dealer and so is 
>Fridge 
>FTA. Fridge site is fridgefta.info and rick caylor's site can be found with a 
>google search and both have forums which are completely loaded with the 
>information you're looking for.
>
>Note - a site which offers "bin" files and "IKS" information are some to stay 
>away from like the plague! Newcombers are sometimes taken in by claims of 
>things 
>like FREE pay tv and such. It doesn't exist without tons of risks and those 
>risks are coming true even though many of them don't believe it.
>
>Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: [email protected] 
> To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>
>
> 
> Holmebrian,
>
> I'd avoid used parts and Dishnetwork/Direct TV antennas. IMHO these would be 
> a 
>false start and end up frustrating you.
>
> I'd also not bite off more than you could chew; at least at first, until you 
>get some experience with a working FTA system.
>
> Later on, if you want C band/ Ku band FTA; You will need at least a 5' dish. 
> ( 
>I have four active dishes; three are 10' and one is 8 1/2'.)
>
> These dishes are tough to aim (you are trying to hit a series of targets the 
>size of a dime held at arm's length with dishes this size.)
>
> So I'd start easy with a 3 or 4' Ku FTA system. 
>
> Relatively easy to align and cheap.
>
> I'd buy all the bits new from some very good dealers like Jamal Sadoun or Tom 
>Taylor. Both have been in the business for a long time and are very friendly 
>to 
>newcomers. Both have informative web sites.
>
> Tom Taylor's is:
>
> http://www.mpeg2fta.com/
>
> His current site offers a Traxis 3500 receiver, Winegard Dish .76m, and ,3 db 
>lnbf for $159. All new; all designed to work together.
>
> Sadoun's site is:
>
> http://www.sadoun.com/
>
> He has similar offers.
>
> You want to get a system up and running and this is the best way to do it. If 
>you like what you get, expand your horizon's (pun) later on.
>
> Rick
> W9ZD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In [email protected], "holmebrian" <holmebr...@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger one?
> >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish.
> >> 
> >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes?
> >>
> >
> >Hi Holmebrian,
> >
> >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether
> >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish
> >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it
> >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite,
> >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept
> >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on
> >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have
> >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with
> >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works
> >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB
> >would NOT work with Dish 500.
> >
> >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then
> >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other
> >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment
> >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in.
> >
> >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos.
> >from what I've done. 
> >
> >Good luck, Brian.
> >
> >Eugene
> >
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In [email protected], "holmebrian" <holmebr...@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger one?
> >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish.
> >> 
> >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes?
> >>
> >
> >Hi Holmebrian,
> >
> >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether
> >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish
> >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it
> >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite,
> >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept
> >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on
> >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have
> >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with
> >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works
> >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB
> >would NOT work with Dish 500.
> >
> >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then
> >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other
> >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment
> >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in.
> >
> >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos.
> >from what I've done. 
> >
> >Good luck, Brian.
> >
> >Eugene
> >
>
> Richard A. Rikoski
> [email protected]
>
>
> 
>
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