Amen to that. I agree 110%.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Frank Kennedy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I never said this list was a pro-pirate site. (I'm on a learning curve > myself, as to what's new.) Do what you wish, but if you are leaving > because you think TVRO on Yahoogroups is pro-pirate, you are MISTAKEN. > > I went through a lot of crap in years past for taking an anti-pirate > stand when others didn't give a damn and just cared where the money > came from. I lost opportunities for being a goodie two shoes. Well, > that's that. > > This is not a pro-pirate list. TVRO started a long time ago, and > possibly survived due to staying out of the muck. > > Frank Kennedy - List Founder and List Moderator > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:51:14 -0400, "Stephen Smith" > <[email protected] <ab8yy%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote: > > >Sorry - didn't realize this was just another pirate supporting site. I'll > remove my membership in this case. And for the record, I was involved in > TVRO and FTA long before HBO and Disney was encrypted. I didn't just wake up > yesterday and setup a dish. If people want good information about what is > out there and what works, you don't contact a dealer anyway - you talk to > those who have working equipment. If you want to know what's on satellite, > you talk with those who are actually watching it. > > > >Finally, if a dealer is supporting the pirate sites, then that person > supports pirates - plane and simple. I'll be gone from this pirate > supporting site as well. > > > >Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] <rikoski%40earthlink.net> > > To: [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> ; > > [email protected]<TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types > > > > > > > > Nuts! > > > > Lets stay on topic here. We are talking about getting a newbie started. > > > > Both Jamal Sadoun and Tom Taylor can help him with advice and > reasonably-priced equipment. Both have been in business a long time. Jamal > came to satellite with an engineering degree and an MBA. Few in this > industry can make that claim. So Sadoun has depth that others probably lack. > Tom has sold and installed many systems. I stand by both of them. > > > > Both know their stuff; they can help this fellow. > > > > Rick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Stephen Smith <[email protected] <ab8yy%40sbcglobal.net>> > > >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 12:56 AM > > >To: [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types > > > > > >Wihle I agree with all of what you said - completely honest the > information is. - The only issue I have with Sadoun is that he caters to > pirates and I personally would stay away from those people as far as > possible and especially the dealers who advertise on their sites, which > Sadoun does, waht with dish going after the end users now. > > > > > >The other guy I don't know. Rick Caylor is a good honest dealer and so > is Fridge FTA. Fridge site is fridgefta.info and rick caylor's site can be > found with a google search and both have forums which are completely loaded > with the information you're looking for. > > > > > >Note - a site which offers "bin" files and "IKS" information are some to > stay away from like the plague! Newcombers are sometimes taken in by claims > of things like FREE pay tv and such. It doesn't exist without tons of risks > and those risks are coming true even though many of them don't believe it. > > > > > >Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [email protected] <rikoski%40earthlink.net> > > > To: [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> ; > [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types > > > > > > > > > > > > Holmebrian, > > > > > > I'd avoid used parts and Dishnetwork/Direct TV antennas. IMHO these > would be a false start and end up frustrating you. > > > > > > I'd also not bite off more than you could chew; at least at first, > until you get some experience with a working FTA system. > > > > > > Later on, if you want C band/ Ku band FTA; You will need at least a 5' > dish. ( I have four active dishes; three are 10' and one is 8 1/2'.) > > > > > > These dishes are tough to aim (you are trying to hit a series of > targets the size of a dime held at arm's length with dishes this size.) > > > > > > So I'd start easy with a 3 or 4' Ku FTA system. > > > > > > Relatively easy to align and cheap. > > > > > > I'd buy all the bits new from some very good dealers like Jamal Sadoun > or Tom Taylor. Both have been in the business for a long time and are very > friendly to newcomers. Both have informative web sites. > > > > > > Tom Taylor's is: > > > > > > http://www.mpeg2fta.com/ > > > > > > His current site offers a Traxis 3500 receiver, Winegard Dish .76m, and > ,3 db lnbf for $159. All new; all designed to work together. > > > > > > Sadoun's site is: > > > > > > http://www.sadoun.com/ > > > > > > He has similar offers. > > > > > > You want to get a system up and running and this is the best way to do > it. If you like what you get, expand your horizon's (pun) later on. > > > > > > Rick > > > W9ZD > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected] <ECruz68007%40aol.com>> > > > >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM > > > >To: [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com>, "holmebrian" > <holmebr...@...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger > one? > > > >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish. > > > >> > > > >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes? > > > >> > > > > > > > >Hi Holmebrian, > > > > > > > >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether > > > >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish > > > >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it > > > >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite, > > > >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept > > > >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on > > > >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have > > > >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with > > > >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works > > > >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB > > > >would NOT work with Dish 500. > > > > > > > >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then > > > >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other > > > >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment > > > >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in. > > > > > > > >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos. > > > >from what I've done. > > > > > > > >Good luck, Brian. > > > > > > > >Eugene > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected] <ECruz68007%40aol.com>> > > > >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM > > > >To: [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected] <TVRO%40yahoogroups.com>, "holmebrian" > <holmebr...@...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger > one? > > > >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish. > > > >> > > > >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes? > > > >> > > > > > > > >Hi Holmebrian, > > > > > > > >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether > > > >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish > > > >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it > > > >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite, > > > >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept > > > >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on > > > >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have > > > >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with > > > >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works > > > >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB > > > >would NOT work with Dish 500. > > > > > > > >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then > > > >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other > > > >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment > > > >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in. > > > > > > > >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos. > > > >from what I've done. > > > > > > > >Good luck, Brian. > > > > > > > >Eugene > > > > > > > > > > Richard A. Rikoski > > > [email protected] <rikoski%40earthlink.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > Richard A. Rikoski > > [email protected] <rikoski%40earthlink.net> > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- > >MPEG2 Charts and Info: http://www.global-cm.net/mpeg2central.html > >----------------------------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups > Links > > > > > > > > -- Thanks, Robby Dosetareh [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
